however you did get me thinking, what do you think would be the reaction if i just walked around with a loaded 870 on my back until they issue me my license?
I think you'd be even more likely to get a MWG call than if you were OC'ing a pistol.
however you did get me thinking, what do you think would be the reaction if i just walked around with a loaded 870 on my back until they issue me my license?
This makes me wonder if the law is 60 business days or 60 calendar days. If it is 60 business day then (The Meach) may still have some time to wait with all the holidays. Anyone have clarification on this?
Here ya go:
IC 35-47-2-6
Granting or rejecting initial application; renewals
Sec. 6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
While I feel their pain, the law is the law.A couple of things, the State of Indiana has slashed office staff to the bone. For the entire state there are only 2 people working in the fire & EMS certification offices. That office serves over 15,000 EMT's / Medics and FF's in the State.
Now, with all the LTC's permits that ISP is being swamped with, how many people do you think work in that office? Probably not more the 5-6.
My wife and I applied for our LTLTC, Nov. 18th, we recieved them toward the end of January.
While I feel their pain, the law is the law.
The larger principle at stake is that the government should have to follow the same laws it enforces.
Again, the law says they have 60 days to make a decision-- not 60 days to print a license and put it in your hands. I believe the backlog has to do with the physical issuing process, not accepting or denying applications.
I could be wrong though. I've been wrong once before.
So if a license is granted that means it is valid. For a license to be valid you must have it in your posession per the IC. Therefore the state (ISP) has to grant the license within 60 days of your application hitting their desk. If we follow the logic of granting vs printing then an unfriendly ISP superintendent could "grant" licenses and never bother printing them. I think the intent of the law was for you to have a valid license in your hands within 60 days of application. At least in my opinion.IC 35-47-2-6
Granting or rejecting initial application; renewals
Sec. 6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
(b) The period during which an application for the renewal of an existing license may be filed begins one hundred eighty (180) days before the expiration of the existing license. If the application for renewal of an existing license is filed within thirty (30) days of its expiration, the existing license is automatically extended until the application for renewal is passed upon.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.190-2006, SEC.4.
Here ya go:
IC 35-47-2-6
Granting or rejecting initial application; renewals
Sec. 6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
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Now this all could have a mute point if the application was done in August before the huge influx of new permit apps hit the offices and you'd now have that permit in hand instead of being mad and waiting.
Just my
FWIW, some of us would have loved to have dropped our apps in the mail for renewal back in August, but the damn Democraps threw that little provision in as an 11th hour dig at gun owners, not permitting renewal more than 180 days prior to expiration.
Had HB 1126 gotten a hearing and passed this legislative session, I would have been first in line as of July 1, 2009 to renew mine; since it did not, my app goes in for renewal in December of this year. Unfortunately, Rep. Bauer assigned it to a committee that never met to consider the 75 pieces of legislation assigned to them. That SOB needs to be voted out of office.
Bill
Bill the key word in your statement is "renewal", you have a license, you're legal to carry. The OP is not currently a license holder so there was
nothing preventing him from applying.
So while Rep Bauer is an ass (as we all know) and assigned HB 1126 to a committee that did not convene to meet it duly appointed duty to us as representatives of this great state, it has no effect on NEW applications which is the case of this thread.
Since the presidential election we have received a huge increase of handgun applications. Prior to November we would receive 1 to 3 boxes a day. We now are receiving 4 to 8 boxes daily. We have had to hire 3 temporary clerks to assist in processing the applications.
Now this all could have a mute point if the application was done in August before the huge influx of new permit apps hit the offices and you'd now have that permit in hand instead of being mad and waiting.
Just my
The state cannot hold up required licensing that is related to your occupation, unless there is a criminal issue involved, it is supposed be expedited. The reason for this being that if you lose your job because you cant acquire or lose said licensing you are not eligible for benefits. Unless you can prove that failure to acquire the license was beyond your control. Now this may not seem relevant as this is not about losing a job but about advancing in a currant position. It is relevant because, no state agency wants to be responsible (especially in this economy) for an employed Indiana resident to not be able to advance in their career... .
Meach, I noticed you live in Hamilton county, I also applied about the same time which was Dec.3 I applied for a lifetime license and was assuming that was the reason for the length of time to get it. I have had a LTCH for a long time and it has never taken this long before. I got it Wed. 2/25 exactly 12 weeks to the day. If they are that far behind yours should be coming any day now.