LIVE FROM NEW YORK!!!

[gunbunnies]

Exactly... Fireblade...

I'm wondering what they think of my S&W R8 8 shot revolver... hhhhmmmmm.

 

[SecondhandSnake]

I think this bill just sealed the fact I can never move back to NY.

As if the horrendous overbearing government, outrageous taxes, and sky high prices weren't enough.

Last one to leave NY, turn the lights off.

 

[45calibre]

look at these ****ing traitors. the schmuck in middle has a look like everything is going according to plan.

 

[scottka]

I think I speak for all of us INGOers when I say all of you like-minded (to us) NYers that are fed up with the BS flooding your state, are more than welcome here in IN. We'd be happy to have more of "us" around. I think you'll like it here as long as we can keep the federal .gov out of our business. Heck, you could probably get some of us to help you unload the moving truck when ya get here.

 

[j706]

Holy cow! Bet you there are some real ticked off people in new York today. What a bunch of bs.
http://www.nysrpa.org/

A bunch of mad people in New York tonight. Check out their facebook link.

 

[ATOMonkey]

So, does this ban assault weapons or just re-define what is an assault weapon?

Does anyone have the specifics on this law?

Further, if a "pistol grip" defines a firearm as an assault weapon, wouldn't that mean that all pistols are assault weapons?

 

[ghitch75]

they go to bed a law abiding citizen and wake up a criminal if you have a hi-cap mag or a "assault weapon".... "God Save The King"!!!!!!!......things like this is what started over 200 years ago!!!

 

[gunbunnies]

The frying pan is steadily getting hotter....

 

[SecondhandSnake]

So, does this ban assault weapons or just re-define what is an assault weapon?

Does anyone have the specifics on this law?

Further, if a "pistol grip" defines a firearm as an assault weapon, wouldn't that mean that all pistols are assault weapons?

Pistols were already regulated to high heaven before the bill so it doesn't change too much for them.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Pistols were already regulated to high heaven before the bill so it doesn't change too much for them.

Just in NYC. The rest of NY state wasn't too bad.

 

[Justin Case]

So, does this ban assault weapons or just re-define what is an assault weapon?

Does anyone have the specifics on this law?

Further, if a "pistol grip" defines a firearm as an assault weapon, wouldn't that mean that all pistols are assault weapons?

"Assault weapons" were already banned. This law redefines what an assault weapon is. Under the old law an assault weapon was defined as having 2 or more "military features". Under the new law it only takes 1 military feature to make a semi-automatic rifle an assault rifle. I believe the same is true for handguns and shotguns.

 

[ATOMonkey]

"Assault weapons" were already banned. This law redefines what an assault weapon is. Under the old law an assault weapon was defined as having 2 or more "military features". Under the new law it only takes 1 military feature to make a semi-automatic rifle an assault rifle. I believe the same is true for handguns and shotguns.

Ok, I'd like to see clarity on the pistol issue.

Doesn't this make all double stack pistols illegal as well?

 

[Justin Case]

Ok, I'd like to see clarity on the pistol issue.

Doesn't this make all double stack pistols illegal as well?

Yes, IMO, it would make double stack pistols illegal for common citizens.

Here is verbiage I pulled out of the bill.

22. "Assault weapon" means
A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF THE WEAPON; (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND; (V) A BAYONET MOUNT; (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR S. 2230 19 A. 2388

(B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND; (IV) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN ROUNDS; (V) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR

(C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; (II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; (III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE NON-TRIGGER HAND; (IV) CAPACITY TO ACCEPT AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT ATTACHES TO THE PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP; (V) A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER; (VI) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY ENCIR CLES, THE BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED; (VII) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS UNLOADED; OR (VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR FIREARM;

(D) A REVOLVING CYLINDER SHOTGUN;

(E) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN SUBPARAGRAPH (V) OF PARAGRAPH (E) OF SUBDI VISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AS ADDED BY CHAPTER ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND AND OTHERWISE LAWFULLY POSSESSED PURSUANT TO SUCH CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR;

(F) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (A), (B) OR (C) OF THIS SUBDIVI SION, POSSESSED PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH;

(G) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE:
(I) ANY RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL THAT (A) IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY BOLT, PUMP, LEVER OR SLIDE ACTION; (B) HAS BEEN RENDERED PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE; OR (C) IS AN ANTIQUE FIREARM AS DEFINED IN 18 U.S.C. 921(A)(16);
(II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE THAT HOLDS MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
(III) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT CANNOT HOLD MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IN A FIXED OR DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR
(IV) A RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, OR A REPLICA OR A DUPLICATE THEREOF, SPECIFIED IN APPENDIX A TO 18 U.S.C. 922 AS SUCH WEAPON WAS MANUFACTURED ON OCTOBER FIRST, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-THREE. THE MERE FACT THAT A WEAPON IS NOT LISTED IN APPENDIX A SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO MEAN THAT SUCH WEAPON IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON;
(V) ANY WEAPON VALIDLY REGISTERED PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION SIXTEEN-A OF SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER. SUCH WEAPONS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF PARAGRAPH (H) OF THIS SUBDIVISION;
(VI) ANY FIREARM, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN THAT WAS MANUFACTURED AT LEAST FIFTY YEARS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT DATE, BUT NOT INCLUDING REPLICAS THERE

 

[Baditude]

May they reap what they sow

 

[LuckyOne]

First they came for the "Assault Weapons".....

....and when they came for me I had nothing left with which to defend myself.