Liberty Safe’s gives FBI safe code

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Just more stupidity from businesses not knowing their customer base.

There may be a customer base satisfied we’re not thinking of.

 

[xwing]

The comments on their FB page are not kind lol. Hopefully they have the number of a good PR fixer.

While IMO it still didn't matter at all (it saved the FBI at most 10 minutes of cutting), the Facebook comments are hilarious. Sounds like Liberty certainly misjudged their customer base.

 

[Denny347]

Is it their information?

Are you saying that a code that ONLY the company knows, is actually the property of the customer, even when the customer doesn't know what it is, or that it even existed in the first place?

 

[nipprdog]

The comments on their FB page are not kind lol. Hopefully they have the number of a good PR fixer.

yeah, like this one

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Are you saying that a code that ONLY the company knows, is actually the property of the customer, even when the customer doesn't know what it is, or that it even existed in the first place?

I'm saying there is, at the very least, an obligation/contract/an interest between the customer and the manufacturer that you, as an agent of the state, should have to go through due process to access. Unless they made it clear that in the sale that any such information that could be used to circumvent the security of the safe would be made available at the drop of a hat to any badge that asks for it, they should have made them get a court order.

We were persecuted anyone we could tie to J6. It wouldn't be hard to find a judge somewhere to sign off on such. I imagine there are some that probably have a stack of pre-signed orders on their secretary's desks just to facilitate the persecutions.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

For the sake of discussion: what is the difference between a court order and a search warrant in this situation? This going with the "specific safe and contents" were on the lawful search warrant.

EST.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Gun safe?

 

[rbhargan]

The Constitution applies to public entities and not private businesses. The private business can do what they want with their information.

Tell that to the people who operated the Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro, NC in 1960. :-)

 

[Ziggidy]

How did this go down? Did the FBI call Liberty? I think I read the FBI contacted Liberty but how was that done? Text, email, phone or sending an agent to Liberty?

 

[Ingomike]

While IMO it still didn't matter at all (it saved the FBI at most 10 minutes of cutting), the Facebook comments are hilarious. Sounds like Liberty certainly misjudged their customer base.

Giving up rights for so little…

 

[bobzilla]

Giving up rights for so little…

I had an epiphany.... "liberty" (name must forever be in quotes) hopes that by helping the feebs they'll be on the preferred safe list when mandatory safes are required for any lawful gun ownership.

 

[Ingomike]

There may be a customer base satisfied we’re not thinking of.

I had an epiphany.... "liberty" (name must forever be in quotes) hopes that by helping the feebs they'll be on the preferred safe list when mandatory safes are required for any lawful gun ownership.

I think that was what GFGT was referring to as well…

 

[bobzilla]

I think that was what GFGT was referring to as well…

well he was too vague and slow. I win.

 

[printcraft]

I had an epiphany.... "liberty" (name must forever be in quotes) hopes that by helping the feebs they'll be on the preferred safe list when mandatory safes are required for any lawful gun ownership.

Meanwhile at the "Liberty"Safes PR department...
"Does the "Liberty" in your name have a literal meaning?"

 

[JTScribe]

How much do you want to bet the FBI called the main contact number and got some low-paid person manning the phones who said, “”FBI? Sure, here’s the code …”

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

well he was too vague and slow. I win.

Your reward is a box of INGO cookies. Send me your credit card number to cover the cost of shipping and I’ll get you fixed up right away.

 

[actaeon277]

BTW, further google fu shows they raided this guys house on a search warrant for his suspected role in Jan 6, and also turned off his security cams.

 

[greg]

They would have just cut it open. We just had an incident where our former Sheriff was served a search warrant which included his safe(s). Didn't voluntarily open them and the Fire Department was requested to the scene and opened them.

Got a link to this ordeal? Thanks….

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

Got a link to this ordeal? Thanks….

Here is one of many.

ISP serves search warrants for fraud, corruption at home owned by former Clark County sheriff

The warrants involve allegations of public corruption, tax evasion, fraud, ghost employment and official misconduct.

www.wdrb.com

 

[ECS686]

I recall Apple refusing to provide the FBI the access code to a Cali terrorist mass shooter's i-phone several years ago. FBI "said" they couldn't open it but did get it open years later.

Apple said it would destroy their customers' confidence in the security of their phones if they gave up the code, even for a dead terrorist's phone.
I guess Apple had more to lose than Liberty.

I get a laugh that a lot of the same folks that are mad at Liberty for cooperating with LE that had a valid warrant were mad at Apple for not cooperating with LE on the phone for the SB shooters..

Apple opposes order to help FBI unlock phone belonging to San Bernardino shooter

Apple Inc.

www.latimes.com