Letter from Sen. Jim Tomes

[japartridge]

must....... not..... threadjack..............

Holy crap, the world must be ending...ATM is showing restraint!

 

[Roadie]

Those posting in the papers comment section already see what a lot of gun owners think about open carry.

There is more bashing of Open Carry in those comments by supposed gun owners than by antis

 

[Titanium_Frost]

There is more bashing of Open Carry in those comments by supposed gun owners than by antis

Thought process of someone who owns and possibly carries guns but hates OC: "that's rude!"


Antis: "AGHHHH GUNNNN!!!!!!!1"

 

[Indy317]

So, something that was not legal ANYWHERE, and now is legal many places where it was not legal before, is a loss? Now, I see how some of can think it logical that the best way to protect open carry is to never practice it.

Depends on the state. The following didn't sound like a win for same sex couples to me:

Arizona governor takes away state domestic partner benefits – LGBTQ Nation

There is more bashing of Open Carry in those comments by supposed gun owners than by antis

But some say that a change in the carry law banning open carry could never happen. Makes you wonder.

 

[hdsB09-10]

Carrying does allow you to protect yourself and others. Too many people point the finger at the Police! The Police are there to protect those that are not trained to do so themselves as well as those of us that do carry! Nothing good can come from OCing. It makes yourself a target and draws unwarranted attention to yourself. I understand the argument on OCing however, but why put yourself and your family at greater risk?

The thing is, idiots with guns ruin it for the rest of us! End of story! Stop blaming the Police for what others do! The Police have to react a certain way to ensure they go home at the end of their shift to see their families, as all of us would. The "bad guys" cause the Police to act the way they do. Your experience with the Police depends on your demeanor. I know it sucks to be handcuffed when they find a weapon, not to mention embarrassing. After talking with several law enforcement officers, and experiencing this first hand, if you cooperate and don't act like a fool, you will have a good experience.

Police have more restrictions than we do. We can shoot if we feel threatened and just have to explain later. They have to prove they felt threatened and hope the jury agrees with why they felt that way. It's because of this that I'm a fan of concealed carry only. I know many will disagree. It's just my opinion.

 

[pudly]

Police have more restrictions than we do. We can shoot if we feel threatened and just have to explain later. They have to prove they felt threatened and hope the jury agrees with why they felt that way.

Ummm... Wow... Welcome to INGO. You can learn a lot here.

 

[mrjarrell]

Carrying does allow you to protect yourself and others. Too many people point the finger at the Police! The Police are there to protect those that are not trained to do so themselves as well as those of us that do carry! Nothing good can come from OCing. It makes yourself a target and draws unwarranted attention to yourself. I understand the argument on OCing however, but why put yourself and your family at greater risk?

The thing is, idiots with guns ruin it for the rest of us! End of story! Stop blaming the Police for what others do! The Police have to react a certain way to ensure they go home at the end of their shift to see their families, as all of us would. The "bad guys" cause the Police to act the way they do. Your experience with the Police depends on your demeanor. I know it sucks to be handcuffed when they find a weapon, not to mention embarrassing. After talking with several law enforcement officers, and experiencing this first hand, if you cooperate and don't act like a fool, you will have a good experience.

Police have more restrictions than we do. We can shoot if we feel threatened and just have to explain later. They have to prove they felt threatened and hope the jury agrees with why they felt that way. It's because of this that I'm a fan of concealed carry only. I know many will disagree. It's just my opinion.

This will not end well....

 

[snowrs]

Police have more restrictions than we do. We can shoot if we feel threatened and just have to explain later. They have to prove they felt threatened and hope the jury agrees with why they felt that way. It's because of this that I'm a fan of concealed carry only. I know many will disagree. It's just my opinion.

Really I can just walk out the door see a creepy guy and shoot him. When the cops come and I just can say he looked threatening. We have a jury to deal with you have watched ay to much TV.

 

[goinggreyfast]

Carrying does allow you to protect yourself and others. Too many people point the finger at the Police! The Police are there to protect those that are not trained to do so themselves as well as those of us that do carry! Nothing good can come from OCing. It makes yourself a target and draws unwarranted attention to yourself. I understand the argument on OCing however, but why put yourself and your family at greater risk?

The thing is, idiots with guns ruin it for the rest of us! End of story! Stop blaming the Police for what others do! The Police have to react a certain way to ensure they go home at the end of their shift to see their families, as all of us would. The "bad guys" cause the Police to act the way they do. Your experience with the Police depends on your demeanor. I know it sucks to be handcuffed when they find a weapon, not to mention embarrassing. After talking with several law enforcement officers, and experiencing this first hand, if you cooperate and don't act like a fool, you will have a good experience.

Police have more restrictions than we do. We can shoot if we feel threatened and just have to explain later. They have to prove they felt threatened and hope the jury agrees with why they felt that way. It's because of this that I'm a fan of concealed carry only. I know many will disagree. It's just my opinion.

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You will need one of these:
(I suggest you keep it handy)

 

[Titanium_Frost]

And people say I scared them...

 

[hdsB09-10]

Really I can just walk out the door see a creepy guy and shoot him. When the cops come and I just can say he looked threatening. We have a jury to deal with you have watched ay to much TV.

I said you have to explain it...just being creepy won't cover it. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that so why do I have to explain it like I would to a 5 year old.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I said you have to explain it...just being creepy won't cover it. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that so why do I have to explain it like I would to a 5 year old.

You must be new to the internet... Here its the 5 year olds you have to watch out for, they steal your gun if you OC...

 

[snowrs]

I said you have to explain it...just being creepy won't cover it. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that so why do I have to explain it like I would to a 5 year old.

We have every bit as much of a burden of proof if not more, as we have seen lately, the average person looks at someone with a gun as a danger and trying to prove something. They are less likely to view what a person has done as self defense than a police officer in the same situation.

 

[goinggreyfast]

 

[ATM]

...I understand the argument on OCing...

No, I don't think that you do.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...lf_defense/71996-the_open_carry_argument.html

 

[Bunnykid68]

Wow, look at all the pretty red. I am late for the neg rep party

 

[Roadie]

Wow, look at all the pretty red. I am late for the neg rep party

That MIGHT be a neg rep record for him having only 4 posts, lol.

 

[Hoosierdood]

That MIGHT be a neg rep record for him having only 4 posts, lol.

IDK, there was a guy about 2 weeks ago that got the ban hammer with 2 red badges after only 9 posts.

 

[Roadie]

IDK, there was a guy about 2 weeks ago that got the ban hammer with 2 red badges after only 9 posts.

Aw man, I miss all the fun!

 

[hdsB09-10]

No, I don't think that you do.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...lf_defense/71996-the_open_carry_argument.html

Then explain your opinion on the subject.