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    actaeon277

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    Then the problem becomes, how do you prove it?
    Attorney Client privilege and all that.
    Basically, it looks like she said she "misunderstood".
    And, if you can somehow sidestep the "privilege", would she answer truthfully if it were to put her lawyers in a bad light?
     

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    Then the problem becomes, how do you prove it?
    Attorney Client privilege and all that.
    Basically, it looks like she said she "misunderstood".
    And, if you can somehow sidestep the "privilege", would she answer truthfully if it were to put her lawyers in a bad light?

    Good points.

    The question is, sure she has some money now....but is she pissed at her lawyers?

    ...but more realistically, we know:

    1) The offer was made to her lawyers. No dispute.
    2) The offer was crystal clear to her lawyers. No dispute.

    So, why was she not "clear" on what the offer was?

    - 2 possibilities: She knew exactly what the offer was and lied under oath, or her lawyers did not explain the offer to her. It was not a complicated, nuanced offer.

    That being said, this ain't going nowhere.
     
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    Good points.

    The question is, sure she has some money now....but is she pissed at her lawyers?

    ...but more realistically, we know:

    1) The offer was made to her lawyers. No dispute.
    2) The offer was crystal clear to her lawyers. No dispute.

    So, why was she not "clear" on what the offer was?

    - 2 possibilities: She knew exactly what the offer was and lied under oath, or her lawyers did not explain the offer to her. It was not a complicated, nuanced offer.

    That being said, this ain't going nowhere.

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    Maybe we need Sam Waterson
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    He always seems to find a way to do it.
    Though I don't know if I could deal with the preachyness, and his tirades on guns/gun owners.
    (just watched, or should I say skipped, an episode where someone machine gunned a buttload of people in a park and he went after the manufacturer)

    :)
     

    JettaKnight

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    truth


    Maybe we need Sam Waterson
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    He always seems to find a way to do it.
    Though I don't know if I could deal with the preachyness, and his tirades on guns/gun owners.
    (just watched, or should I say skipped, an episode where someone machine gunned a buttload of people in a park and he went after the manufacturer)

    :)

    Stick to the older ones. We all know that Jack is a bleeding heart liberal, Whereas Ben Stone would bring a Bible into the court room.

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    As to the bow tie, I reached the same conclusion by studying real mafioso as a hobby. As for the weight, there is about 1/4 to 1/3 that are not morbidly obese.

    More accurate pictures:
    John Gotti



    Sam Giancana


    Lefty Ruggerio


    Jimmy Burke



    Tony Spilotro



    Lefty Rosenthal


    Michael Franzese (fascinating story- only one of these alive at this time)

    These guys are all past tense [STRIKE]mobsters[/STRIKE]organized criminals. Nowadays I think they are nearly all heftier.
    Sartorial norms are still a thing tho. In one of, or the first, episode of The Sopranos, Tony wore some shorts while holding a backyard BBQ for a bunch of organized criminal buddies. I read that after that episode aired for the first time some real made guys called Gandolfini and told him not to do that again, real grown made men do not wear shorts.
     

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    These guys are all past tense [STRIKE]mobsters[/STRIKE]organized criminals. Nowadays I think they are nearly all heftier.
    Sartorial norms are still a thing tho. In one of, or the first, episode of The Sopranos, Tony wore some shorts while holding a backyard BBQ for a bunch of organized criminal buddies. I read that after that episode aired for the first time some real made guys called Gandolfini and told him not to do that again, real grown made men do not wear shorts.

    Michael Franzese (once a Capo in the Columbo family and the son of an underboss) has said that if there was a made man who was seeing a therapist, the guy would be disappeared as would the therapist.
     

    actaeon277

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    Stick to the older ones. We all know that Jack is a bleeding heart liberal, Whereas Ben Stone would bring a Bible into the court room.

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    But Sam twisted the rules to the point of breaking them entirely.
    Of course, had he not been the DA, he would be crying about government overreach.
     

    Alamo

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    Michael Franzese (once a Capo in the Columbo family and the son of an underboss) has said that if there was a made man who was seeing a therapist, the guy would be disappeared as would the therapist.

    You mean DeNiro and Billy Crystal were faking it too? I'm crushed.
     

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    So what's your best guess? If the lawyers mislead her, are there any consequences to them? Tell me there's gotta be consequences! If she lied under oath, tell me there's gotta be consequences! By all that's Holy, someone needs to pay for this.


    Good points.

    The question is, sure she has some money now....but is she pissed at her lawyers?

    ...but more realistically, we know:

    1) The offer was made to her lawyers. No dispute.
    2) The offer was crystal clear to her lawyers. No dispute.

    So, why was she not "clear" on what the offer was?

    - 2 possibilities: She knew exactly what the offer was and lied under oath, or her lawyers did not explain the offer to her. It was not a complicated, nuanced offer.

    That being said, this ain't going nowhere.
     

    HoughMade

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    Hey Hough,was Casino pretty close to to the real Lefty? For what I have read,it seems so.

    I was fairly close. You might think of it as “inspired by” as it gave a accurate flavor of what was going on and some scenes were taken straight out of real life. Obviously they made some changes for dramatic effect, but Lefty Rosenthal was the inspiration for Ace Rothstein and Tony Spilotro was the inspiration for Nicky Santoro.
     

    HoughMade

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    So what's your best guess? If the lawyers mislead her, are there any consequences to them? Tell me there's gotta be consequences! If she lied under oath, tell me there's gotta be consequences! By all that's Holy, someone needs to pay for this.

    If she doesn’t break bad on her lawyers nothing will happen an she won’t do that.

    Let’s move on.
     

    KG1

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    If she doesn’t break bad on her lawyers nothing will happen an she won’t do that.

    Let’s move on.
    ^This^ She absolutely would'nt break bad on her lawyers. They are fellow ideological travelers.
     
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