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  • Vigilant

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    Sekulow just pounding it to Schiffyllis was worth the entire watch. Obviously, the MSM billed it as Schiff “firing back”, but when you ask the guy “did you make your case” repeatedly, and he answers “yes”. What more do they need! They made their case? Too bad it isn’t, wasn’t, and never will be enough to convict!
     

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    Rudi Ghouliani. Malicious intent is prima facie.

    As to what Trump said: All you have is a redacted transcript. Correct? Let's hear the tape and see the actual full transcript.

    Oh, Alpo. Do you really think anybody is allowing anything to be taped since Nixon? And if some IC agency was actually taping the President's secure diplomatic calls, that information will never see the light of day
     

    Ingomike

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    Sounds to me as if Rand was taking testimony of a witness. Yet the Repubicans refuse to allow testimony from other witnesses which might be important to a fair hearing.

    And you scream "impeach the CJ"

    Just to bring all up to speed

    Several senators on Thursday asked Schiff about his top aide Sean Misko plotting with his NatSec-crony-turned-whistleblower Eric Ciaramella to “take out” Trump in January of 2017.


    The senators were referring to Paul Sperry’s explosive investigative report revealing Eric Ciaramella plotted with Schiff’s aide Sean Misko to “take out” Trump in January of 2017.

    Impeachment manager Adam Schiff has TWO aides, Sean Misko and Abigail Grace who worked with the whistleblower Eric Ciaramella at the National Security Council and Republican Senators asked about their role in plotting to remove Trump.


    Schiff hired Eric Ciaramella’s NatSec crony Sean Misko ONE DAY after President Trump’s July 25 phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and now he’s refusing to answer questions about their coordination.

    But Alpo doesn't think that impropriety should be even asked about on the public record, there is no requirement the Schiff must answer it, just ask it on the record. Alpo is still hiding behind witnesses the house failed to call, don't be mad at the Senate, the house failed to do their job.
     

    Alpo

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    Quotes without links or citations aren't very useful.

    Hmmm, Rand looks about 1/2 quart low.....

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    Ingomike

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    Oh boy, wonder how long before Twitter kicks Trump off? I think he might be daring them to. He tweeted the investigative reporting on the relationship of whistleblower and Schiffs staffer, that was hired the day after the Ukraine call, with the whistleblowers name. That has been a no-no on Twitter so far...
     

    Doug

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    But, NOBODY, not even Adam Schiff, knows who the whistleblower is.
    How could asking a question that doesn't require revealing his/her name reveal a protected witness?
    Or do you (Alpo) know who the whistleblower is and did you just reveal it and expose yourself to federal prosecution?
     

    nonobaddog

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    Is there a point involved in all of them pretending not to know who the whistle blower is?
    Everybody else in the country (that gives a crap) knows who it is.
     

    KG1

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    Sekulow just pounding it to Schiffyllis was worth the entire watch. Obviously, the MSM billed it as Schiff “firing back”, but when you ask the guy “did you make your case” repeatedly, and he answers “yes”. What more do they need! They made their case? Too bad it isn’t, wasn’t, and never will be enough to convict!
    I think Jerry "Nads" Nadler said they had a "rock solid case" If it's rock solid there isn't a need for witnesses then. Right "Nads"?
     

    Ingomike

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    Quotes without links or citations aren't very useful.

    Hmmm, Rand looks about 1/2 quart low.....

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    Looks like a truly maverick senator to me, not a media darling like McCain. I will not debase the site with a picture of pencil neck Schiff and Nadler...

    Here is your link, hope your head doesn't spin off reading how organized they were in the coup they were perpetrating, it the story is a little incestious...


    https://www.realclearinvestigations...ing_with_ally_how_to_remove_trump_121701.html
     
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    Ingomike

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    Looks like a truly maverick senator to me, not a media darling like McCain. I will not debase the site with a picture of pencil neck Schiff and Nadler...

    Here is your link, hope your head doesn't spin off reading how organized they were in the coup they were perpetrating, it the story is a little incestious...


    https://www.realclearinvestigations...ing_with_ally_how_to_remove_trump_121701.html


    That link above tells the story of how this all started, from even before the Ukraine call. How they were looking for anything they could try to sell to get impeachment as far back as 2017...
     

    Alpo

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    But, NOBODY, not even Adam Schiff, knows who the whistleblower is.
    How could asking a question that doesn't require revealing his/her name reveal a protected witness?
    Or do you (Alpo) know who the whistleblower is and did you just reveal it and expose yourself to federal prosecution?

    "Inductive reasoning is failing Cap'n! I dinna think I kin hold 'er tagether!"

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    Vigilant

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    But, NOBODY, not even Adam Schiff, knows who the whistleblower is.
    How could asking a question that doesn't require revealing his/her name reveal a protected witness?
    Or do you (Alpo) know who the whistleblower is and did you just reveal it and expose yourself to federal prosecution?
    Its already been stated, the whistleblower has no right to, or expectation of anonymit. The media, helpful little darlings that they are have conspired with Schiff &Company to keep him secret. The whistleblower can only expect protection from reprisal, but IF they call witnesses, we will likely see the Shiffshow crumble, and possibly see some prosecutions for leaking classified info under guise of a false whistleblower claim?
     

    Alpo

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    That link above tells the story of how this all started, from even before the Ukraine call. How they were looking for anything they could try to sell to get impeachment as far back as 2017...

    Unfortunately, none of those mentioned will be testifying in front of the Senate, it seems. That's the problem with no witnesses. The public will never know the truth of the matter.

    The only downside to all of the allegations in the article is that every counter-argument is supported by unnamed sources. That may be the way business is conducted today, but since the guy in charge of realclearinvestigations used to be with the NY Times, he knows that unnamed sources detract from the weight of the allegations. Without witnesses, we'll never know.
     

    Ingomike

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    Unfortunately, none of those mentioned will be testifying in front of the Senate, it seems. That's the problem with no witnesses. The public will never know the truth of the matter.

    The only downside to all of the allegations in the article is that every counter-argument is supported by unnamed sources. That may be the way business is conducted today, but since the guy in charge of realclearinvestigations used to be with the NY Times, he knows that unnamed sources detract from the weight of the allegations. Without witnesses, we'll never know.

    Rand Paul and the other senators were not asking about or for witnesses, they simply wanted the the house impeachment managers to answer a question about the staff that worked for them to build the impeachment, that type of question was an agreed part of the question period, far different than a witnesses that were not.

    So I guess it works out that the NYT report based on anonymous sources of Boltons manuscript and Schiff's staff involvement in creating the impeachment whistleblower, also based on anonymous sources, will both be left unexplored...
     

    Vigilant

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    Unfortunately, none of those mentioned will be testifying in front of the Senate, it seems. That's the problem with no witnesses. The public will never know the truth of the matter.

    The only downside to all of the allegations in the article is that every counter-argument is supported by unnamed sources. That may be the way business is conducted today, but since the guy in charge of realclearinvestigations used to be with the NY Times, he knows that unnamed sources detract from the weight of the allegations. Without witnesses, we'll never know.
    Then why didn’t you tell your buddies to do their jobs? Schiff & Co. evidently half-assed their jobs, and now look to the Senate to save them? It’s NOT within the Senate’s enumerated powers to do the House’s job for them. Oh, wait that’s the Democratic platform, have others do for you what you should do for yourself!
     

    Vigilant

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    Unfortunately, none of those mentioned will be testifying in front of the Senate, it seems. That's the problem with no witnesses. The public will never know the truth of the matter.

    The only downside to all of the allegations in the article is that every counter-argument is supported by unnamed sources. That may be the way business is conducted today, but since the guy in charge of realclearinvestigations used to be with the NY Times, he knows that unnamed sources detract from the weight of the allegations. Without witnesses, we'll never know.
    If they needed witnesses, why didn’t they call them? Why ask the Senate, other than your boys and girls didn’t do their due diligence, and now in the 11th hour they are scrambling for some semblance of dignity?
     

    Alpo

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    Then why didn’t you tell your buddies to do their jobs? Schiff & Co. evidently half-assed their jobs, and now look to the Senate to save them? It’s NOT within the Senate’s enumerated powers to do the House’s job for them. Oh, wait that’s the Democratic platform, have others do for you what you should do for yourself!

    See post #332
     

    Alpo

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    If they needed witnesses, why didn’t they call them? Why ask the Senate, other than your boys and girls didn’t do their due diligence, and now in the 11th hour they are scrambling for some semblance of dignity?

    Some of us read prior commentary on a thread before asking questions. Some don't.

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