Is "The Great Reset" a conspiracy theory or something else?

[JettaKnight]

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Life is so much easier when you stop assuming people's motives.

 

[jamil]

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Well sure, but you’re sounding like you’re justifying bull**** because someone projected bull**** on you. And just a page or so ago you lectured me about knowing people’s thoughts. Now if NKBJ has a source which documents what that group thinks, fine. It’s fair to call him out when he doesn’t justify it.

 

[BugI02]

Well sure, but you’re sounding like you’re justifying bull**** because someone projected bull**** on you. And just a page or so ago you lectured me about knowing people’s thoughts. Now if NKBJ has a source which documents what that group thinks, fine. It’s fair to call him out when he doesn’t justify it.

Do you recall that many moons ago I attempted to take people to task for statements like 'Trump is only in it for himself' because to state it unequivocally would require knowledge they couldn't possibly have, so it was just an opinion. If you so remember, then am I consistent in my viewpoint?

And if you are just now coming around to the viewpoint that such projection should be called out, are you consistent in yours

 

[jamil]

Do you recall that many moons ago I attempted to take people to task for statements like 'Trump is only in it for himself' because to state it unequivocally would require knowledge they couldn't possibly have, so it was just an opinion. If you so remember, then am I consistent in my viewpoint?

And if you are just now coming around to the viewpoint that such projection should be called out, are you consistent in yours

Just so we’re clear, you’re agreeing with JK now?

 

[BugI02]

Just so we’re clear, you’re agreeing with JK now?[/QUOTE

Negative. JK is hoist. He exhibits few of the traits he advocates for and does so unironically

 

[Tombs]

I think that just shows that we don't live in a socialist state--yet--and that patents and intellectual property mean something.

Besides, most of the people in gov't realize that if you (immediately) snatch away the fruit of people's labor, they'll stop laboring

They can be reimbursed for the value of it, the concept is to spread it to other drug makers to increase the manufacturing capacity.
That isn't socialism.

Do you think the arms manufacturing market is socialist? Because that's more or less exactly what they do with the TDP.

 

[jamil]

Just so we’re clear, you’re agreeing with JK now?

Negative. JK is hoist. He exhibits few of the traits he advocates for and does so unironically

Because it sounded like you were in a agreement with “Life is so much easier when you stop assuming people's motives.”

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Klaus Schwab is the Pope of the movement.His "4fh Industrial Age" is the wacko Democrats playbook.He coined the phrase "build back better." Joe is mega corps puppet, and Trump has only slowed down the march toward insanity. Schwab's next book "Stakeholder Capitalism" will be out in Feb.The Covid was used to destroy mom and pop capitalism...... By design. Biden will tank the economy,and all left standing will be massive corp. Billionaires, and a re-imagined economy and insane politicians who will control every aspect of your life. It is a march for China to control the world. Is this scenario most fantasy? I say "Praise the Lord, pass the Ammo, I'm all shook up!"

 

[churchmouse]

 

[DadSmith]

Was it plain and simple before or after it was explained to you? I mean. If we’re gonna talk religion lets talk it then.

It wasn't explained to me i have my own mind I can read and understand words. Most in my church have their own opinions and beliefs nothing is forced on us. We say what we think and that's how it is. We are not lead around by the nose like some religions or denominations.

 

[jamil]

It wasn't explained to me i have my own mind I can read and understand words. Most in my church have their own opinions and beliefs nothing is forced on us. We say what we think and that's how it is. We are not lead around by the nose like some religions or denominations.

Well...everyone says that. But lets get back to the idea that you've come to the conclusions by yourself.

I'm a believer in biblical prophecy. Didn't use to be, but I am now. My local church has had several studies about the last days, the one world government, religion, and economy. We all seem to agree the government will be a communist style government. The rest is a toss up of ideas. The great reset a part of bringing every country under one government and the loss of sovereignty. That's my opinion I don't think it's going to happen fast but it's all pointing that direction imo.

You didn't used to believe in Bible prophecy. But now you do. Your change of mind appears to be caused by your attendance of the "last days" studies where maybe it did not feel like it was being explained to you. Many denominations have such studies--nothing untoward about that--and what's presented to you as "plain scripture" takes on the meanings implied. Again, nothing untoward about that. It's just how we think. For every one of you who think that you arrived at your belief about prophecy on your own, the thing you tend to believe is what the group says it means.

It is indeed ambiguous text. There are many plausible meanings. And that's why there are so many denominations, and interpretations. Attend the prophecy study groups of 20 different denominations and you'll come away thinking they're all wrong, that YOU are right. Well, every one of them will have the same impression as you, that THEY are the ones who are right, and everyone else has it wrong.

I'm not saying you should not believe what you've come to believe. But beware of the kind of confidence that leads to hubris; an assumption that you are right, and that they are wrong. Without any other input, you have 100 different people who have no prior knowledge of eschatology, they'll each have a different take on what it could possibly mean. Generally each denomination will have their own interpretations, and their interpretations will likely come from where their leaders went to seminary.

 

[NKBJ]

Klaus Schwab is the Pope of the movement.His "4fh Industrial Age" is the wacko Democrats playbook.He coined the phrase "build back better." Joe is mega corps puppet, and Trump has only slowed down the march toward insanity. Schwab's next book "Stakeholder Capitalism" will be out in Feb.The Covid was used to destroy mom and pop capitalism...... By design. Biden will tank the economy,and all left standing will be massive corp. Billionaires, and a re-imagined economy and insane politicians who will control every aspect of your life. It is a march for China to control the world. Is this scenario most fantasy? I say "Praise the Lord, pass the Ammo, I'm all shook up!"

Yep, "China is the model" was the globalist credo for a long time now.

Who today recalls Mister Globaloney GHWB's fourteen months in China getting the deal going?
And who cannot recognize a Cloward-Piven's pulled off on a global basis, when it's in their faces? It shouldn't have been difficult seeing as it was announced* almost two decades ago. Perhaps I was just lucky in having bible teachers explain to me how debt and it's elimination (reset) was going to be used to coerce nations as well as individuals. Not so hard to figure out once you learn that just with Balaam, the bad guys today study scripture too.
But oh well, willful ignorance is a choice; lots of people have a lot of catching up to do but they won't because really, it's just too much to be troubled with.


*It's part of a set of religious beliefs, telling victims what is going to be done. Some researcher think that the source of this is a belief in karma. I've come to the conclusion that it is an intentional perverting of Ezekiel 33.

 

[jamil]

Yep, "China is the model" was the globalist credo for a long time now.

Who today recalls Mister Globaloney GHWB's fourteen months in China getting the deal going?
And who cannot recognize a Cloward-Piven's pulled off on a global basis, when it's in their faces? It shouldn't have been difficult seeing as it was announced* almost two decades ago. Perhaps I was just lucky in having bible teachers explain to me how debt and it's elimination (reset) was going to be used to coerce nations as well as individuals. Not so hard to figure out once you learn that just with Balaam, the bad guys today study scripture too.
But oh well, willful ignorance is a choice; lots of people have a lot of catching up to do but they won't because really, it's just too much to be troubled with.


*It's part of a set of religious beliefs, telling victims what is going to be done. Some researcher think that the source of this is a belief in karma. I've come to the conclusion that it is an intentional perverting of Ezekiel 33.

I think I'm gonna need to see if the Non-Conspiracy Theorist's Guide to Bible-based Truther-speak is in print.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

Well...everyone says that. But lets get back to the idea that you've come to the conclusions by yourself.



You didn't used to believe in Bible prophecy. But now you do. Your change of mind appears to be caused by your attendance of the "last days" studies where maybe it did not feel like it was being explained to you. Many denominations have such studies--nothing untoward about that--and what's presented to you as "plain scripture" takes on the meanings implied. Again, nothing untoward about that. It's just how we think. For every one of you who think that you arrived at your belief about prophecy on your own, the thing you tend to believe is what the group says it means.

It is indeed ambiguous text. There are many plausible meanings. And that's why there are so many denominations, and interpretations. Attend the prophecy study groups of 20 different denominations and you'll come away thinking they're all wrong, that YOU are right. Well, every one of them will have the same impression as you, that THEY are the ones who are right, and everyone else has it wrong.

I'm not saying you should not believe what you've come to believe. But beware of the kind of confidence that leads to hubris; an assumption that you are right, and that they are wrong. Without any other input, you have 100 different people who have no prior knowledge of eschatology, they'll each have a different take on what it could possibly mean. Generally each denomination will have their own interpretations, and their interpretations will likely come from where their leaders went to seminary.

Couple thoughts here...

I've said for years "There are no true Christians"
Meaning of you talk to Christian group a and tell them Christian group b believes something slightly different group a will say something like "well they aren /real/ Christians, bc you have to believe it like 'this'"

Then if you go to group b with the same comment they will respond the same way. So if you think about the many many many different sects of Christians who think they are right and all the others are wrong. It leads to the assumption they are all wrong. (This assumption also takes in the factual inaccuracies of the bible itself)

Second thought:

I'm going to make the assumption that when Christian folks make religion based claims in non religious threads and they get push back. It only serves to strengthen their belief. Which is what the church wants. More butts in seats more money for church. Let's take the jahovah's witnesses in example.

They build a tight nit accepting loving community inside the church. Then they send their followers out in the world to get doors dammed in their face, ignored, berated, mocked etc etc. They concert very very very few people with this practice. A half way wise person would see it does no good to add butts in seats and would stop a time wasting task. But the point of their door knocking is actually more about wanting those members to have doors slammed in their face, be accosted, be insulted etc etc. Bc they can run back to the church thinking the whole world outside the church is cold and scary and mean unlike their loving and accepting church.
It's a form of manipulation, often used by cults.

Which brings us kinda to the point of the other thread about politicians being leaders.

Politicians like ministers/preachers/sooth sayers etc etc are all charlatans.

 

[JettaKnight]

I think I'm gonna need to see if the Non-Conspiracy Theorist's Guide to Bible-based Truther-speak is in print.

I might have a second edition on my shelf, somewhere...

Negative. JK is hoist. He exhibits few of the traits he advocates for and does so unironically

I'm a pulley? Was that meant to be "moist"? Or maybe a host? I'll be a good host and invite you over for a cocktail anytime... I promise, no arsenic in your Manhattan.

Couple thoughts here...

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Politicians like ministers/preachers/sooth sayers etc etc are all charlatans.

I'd welcome a discussion about this in the Civil Christianity Thread.

 

[KLB]

I might have a second edition on my shelf, somewhere...


I'm a pulley? Was that meant to be "moist"? Or maybe a host? I'll be a good host and invite you over for a cocktail anytime... I promise, no arsenic in your Manhattan.




I'd welcome a discussion about this in the Civil Christianity Thread.

It would be so nice if all of this religious discussion would go there.

 

[JettaKnight]

It would be so nice if all of this religious discussion would go there.

IKR. I'm trying, but no one's taking up my offer. (maybe it's my .sig that's scaring them)

 

[fullmetaljesus]

I might have a second edition on my shelf, somewhere...


I'm a pulley? Was that meant to be "moist"? Or maybe a host? I'll be a good host and invite you over for a cocktail anytime... I promise, no arsenic in your Manhattan.




I'd welcome a discussion about this in the Civil Christianity Thread.

I doubt my views would be reviewed as civil, and I doubt y'all would want me breaking up your fellowship over there.

Tell yea what. I'll stay out of the religious threads if you all keep religion out of non-religious threads.

 

[BugI02]

Because it sounded like you were in a agreement with “Life is so much easier when you stop assuming people's motives.”

I might agree with him more if he exhibited fealty to the principle beyond the breech

And yes, I know the actual quote is ' ... in the breach', but I actually prefer the missquote with its intimation of 'about to have their turn in the barrel'

 

[JettaKnight]

I doubt my views would be reviewed as civil, and I doubt y'all would want me breaking up your fellowship over there.

Tell yea what. I'll stay out of the religious threads if you all keep religion out of non-religious threads.

Hey, if we can be civil with PaulF, we can be civil with anyone. I am certainly not opposed to criticism of Christianity, so long as it's sincere. Christianity has stood against detractors for 2000 years; I think we handle one more. One of Christianities biggest opponents became it's biggest supporter on the road to Damascus.