Is The Government Shutdown Affecting You Directly?

[churchmouse]

All "public" employees should be paid free of income tax.

As it stands, the burden on taxpayers' income is increased by taxes imposed to cover the income tax on the compensation paid the public employee.

For example: Joe Q. Public Employee is paid compensation of $100 funded by American taxpayer. Joe Q. Public pays income tax of $25 on that compensation (for illustrative purposes) and takes home $75.

Pay Joe Q. Public Employee $75 and leave more money in the hands of the American taxpayer who are actually funding the cost.

I like it......but, you know they would just blow it.

 

[BigRed]

I like it......but, you know they would just blow it.

Better than having the federal government blow it.

When an individual blows his money, he suffers the consequences.

When the federal government blows the money, we all suffer the consequences (or, more accurately, our children and their children's children suffer the consequences).

The feds do not have a revenue problem. They have one heck of a spending problem.

 

[mmpsteve]

Pay Joe Q. Public Employee $75 and leave more money in the hands of the American taxpayer who are actually funding the cost.

Yes, but if you keep reducing .gov revenue, they won't have enough to build the wall, and the shutdown will NEVER end!

 

[BigRed]

Yes, but if you keep reducing .gov revenue, they won't have enough to build the wall, and the shutdown will NEVER end!

Promise?

Starve the beast straight to death?

 

[Libertarian01]

Medical coverage? Who needs that? I mean since you CHOSE to work for the gov you CHOSE all of this to happen to you...(sarcasm)

You are most correct Sir. They chose to work for this employer. They chose to work for an employer that could furlough them. They chose to work for an employer where they would lose health coverage.

Except...

FAKE NEWS! Federal employees do NOT go without health coverage, at least according to the Office of Personnel Management.

Link: https://www.fedsmith.com/2019/01/11/opm-provides-fact-sheet-pay-benefits-shutdown/

Another Link: https://chcoc.gov/content/fact-shee...ation-employees-affected-lapse-appropriations

I loved Reagan, "Trust, but verify."

I chose to verify.

Regards,

Doug

 

[KG1]

Stuck in a pickle? Eat the pickle. (levity break, carry on)

 

[Denny347]

You are most correct Sir. They chose to work for this employer. They chose to work for an employer that could furlough them. They chose to work for an employer where they would lose health coverage.

Except...

FAKE NEWS! Federal employees do NOT go without health coverage, at least according to the Office of Personnel Management.

Link: https://www.fedsmith.com/2019/01/11/opm-provides-fact-sheet-pay-benefits-shutdown/

Another Link: https://chcoc.gov/content/fact-shee...ation-employees-affected-lapse-appropriations

I loved Reagan, "Trust, but verify."

I chose to verify.

Regards,

Doug

I was just responding to the Federal employee posting here that stated that it does...is he wrong?

 

[Libertarian01]

I was just responding to the Federal employee posting here that stated that it does...is he wrong?

According to the OPM, yes. Federal employees do not lose health coverage.

However, a contractor may(?) depending upon their employers policies. But, according to an NPR story, most (~95%) federal contractor companies do continue coverage.

Doug

 

[ghitch75]

i'm working as a sub at Crane and everything is running as normal as far as i can tell....

 

[Dimik]

No effect on me, but my better half is affected. They need to import some live animals from abroad (not going into details), and the permits to do that cannot be issued due to the shutdown. She's irate, but I'm just going as usual.

 

[Expat]

Taking the Ford in for servicing this morning. Apparently they are still open.

 

[BigRed]

 

[Thor]

All "public" employees should be paid free of income tax.

I agree and recognized the idiocy of it back when I first joined the Army. It's like a self licking ice cream cone for the IRS. Uncle Sam hands me some cash, then makes me hand some of it back, then makes me fill out paperwork to demonstrate I handed the right amount back. WTFO.

 

[churchmouse]

I agree and recognized the idiocy of it back when I first joined the Army. It's like a self licking ice cream cone for the IRS. Uncle Sam hands me some cash, then makes me hand some of it back, then makes me fill out paperwork to demonstrate I handed the right amount back. WTFO.

Wait until you have to pay taxes on your SS benefits. Thanks Bill you Dick.

 

[Huzrjim]

i'm working as a sub at Crane and everything is running as normal as far as i can tell....

For once the Department of Defense (DOD) is not affected by this shutdown, as the Defense budget was passed before this fight began. As a DOD employee, I can relate to the current shutdown, as DOD is usually impacted. Just a reminder, in 2013 under Obama, when DOD was hit with the 20% sequestration, I was forced to take 11 unpaid furlough days - basically every other Friday for several months. Although I enjoyed the three day weekends, I did not receive back pay for those days, just had to suck it up and press on.

Shutdowns and furloughs are facts of life for Federal employees with the way budgets are funded by Congress and approved by the President. Just need to prepare and roll with the punches!

 

[HoughMade]

Wait until you have to pay taxes on your SS benefits. Thanks Bill you Dick.

Heck, if people my age have any SS benefits to pay taxes on, we'll be shocked and delighted.

 

[Libertarian01]

I mailed in my C&R renewal paperwork last week, along with my check.

My check was cashed today by the BATFE. So the USPS and the BATFE are both working for me.

From my point of view it is at 100%.

Of course, the USPS lost a book I had ordered from Amazon, so we'll see if they can find it and deliver it to the right address today...?

Regards,

Doug

 

[JettaKnight]

I'm waiting to here if I can start doing taxes (volunteer for the IRS).

I will be pissed if I don't get my fill of 1040's!

 

[d.kaufman]

I'm waiting to here if I can start doing taxes (volunteer for the IRS).

I will be pissed if I don't get my fill of 1040's!

Dont know why you wouldn't be able to. Seen it wasn't affecting tax returns, plus they just recalled 46k irs employees to help with processing refunds if shutdown isnt over by time Jan 28th arrives.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/817946/irs-recall-46000-employees-tax-filing-season-without-pay

 

[T.Lex]

I wonder if the shutdown is related to the tax problems that may be on the way. When the tax revisions were passed early in this administration, they were heralded as a great thing. My back of the napkin estimating suggests that my net result will be about the same as before, or a bit worse. (But, that may have happened even without the tax changes, so I'm not bashing Trump for that at this point.)

A shutdown that delays, or allows for manipulation (like no audits this year), taxes is a short term gain, with long term negative effects.