My 18 year-old son has a 9mm carbine...has proven to be a 100% reliable and remarkably accurate little gun. ...will ring a 6" steel at 100 yards. At that range, it STILL has more energy than a 22 pistol has, at the muzzle!
This is why entry teams use 9mm compact rifles for their primary weapon, not shotguns nor pistols. I'll bet the length of that Hi-Point carbine is a little less than the width of a typical doorway...and for good reason.It's short enough to maneuver in tight quarters...
With all of that being said, there is a 12 gauge Mossberg within easy reach, should an intruder ever kick in my door...the sound of a shell being racked into the chamber of a pump shotgun is enough to make cowardly men pee themselves.
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BB guns don't kill (normally)...a burst of 40 grain round nose .22 LR bullets out of a rifle will drop you dead real fast.Why not just get a BB gun? They hurt like hell and ammo is way cheaper than .22. You could even aim for the eyes! Besides, even if it fails to stop the threat and you're killed, at least you'll die with the satisfaction of knowing you didn't waste any money on equipment or training.
These threads amaze me.
THIS, I agree !!!!!BB guns don't kill (normally)...a burst of 40 grain round nose .22 LR bullets out of a rifle will drop you dead real fast.
BB guns don't kill (normally)...a burst of 40 grain round nose .22 LR bullets out of a rifle will drop you dead real fast.
That's painting with a pretty broad brush. Wouldn't you agree that every selection is situation-specific? Would you disagree that there are certain circumstances where a .22LR would be preferable, say, a child or a woman with lesser skills and tolerance to a larger caliber?You're right. That's why .22lr is the the preferred round of police officers and military's world wide.
Just because a pointy stick could be deadly, doesn't mean it's an ideal tool for self defense.
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You're right. That's why .22lr is the the preferred round of police officers and military's world wide.
Just because a pointy stick could be deadly, doesn't mean it's an ideal tool for self defense.
I know two people who were shot multiple times. One person was hit 8 times in the chest and stomach with 9mm.
The other person was hit 5 times in the stomach and chest with .22lr.
Both lived. By the only personal evidence I have, must I conclude that both are useless?
But it's better than no stick at all.
There are two factors involved. The first being shot placement. The second being the will of the person being shot to survive. Any round can be deadly or not, out of a hand gun. Bump up to a long gun and the game changes dramatically.
But it's better than no stick at all.
I know two people who were shot multiple times. One person was hit 8 times in the chest and stomach with 9mm.
The other person was hit 5 times in the stomach and chest with .22lr.
Both lived. By the only personal evidence I have, must I conclude that both are useless?
But it's better than no stick at all.
Really? You consider that evidence? With a sample size of one (1) for each cartridge, you can reach an authoritative conclusion? Now, you go find us hundreds of people shot 8 times with a 9mm that lived...and we'll talk.
I'd like to see the details on these "stomach and chest" shots. I'm guessing the reality does not match up well to your anecdotal relating of events. Got a news story to share with us on this one?