Indiana Constitutional Carry - HB1022 (2018)

[K_W]

He said on his FB page it is dead. They've moved on down the road with 1424 and they're not going back to start all over again with 1022.

When will the new text of HB1424 be available? There are some rotten (maybe poison) apples in the currently posted version.

 

[87iroc]

I've read back thru most of the new comments... Anyone care to summarize what happened today? It doesn't sound promising?

I think the ConC crowd got steam rolled by Bosma as he didn't want to mess with it. Rewrote the entire bill with it in it with one amendment that negated all the ConC stuff and just did a few 'fixes' to let us buy guns easier in hopes it would appease us.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

When will the new text of HB1424 be available? There are some rotten (maybe poison) apples in the currently posted version.

It's here. Drill down through the 1424 stuff.

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2018...17-63bf05d466b5/committee_public_policy_1600/

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think the ConC crowd got steam rolled by Bosma as he didn't want to mess with it. Rewrote the entire bill with it in it with one amendment that negated all the ConC stuff and just did a few 'fixes' to let us buy guns easier in hopes it would appease us.

Only if you get a 5 year Brady Exempt LTCH. If you have a lifetime LTCH already, I'm not sure there's a remedy to revert back to the 5 year license.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that unless you buy lots of guns every year...or something like that.

 

[Spear Dane]

That A hole better retire. I will be his opponents biggest fan.

 

[brotherbill3]

When will the new text of HB1424 be available? There are some rotten (maybe poison) apples in the currently posted version.

If you go to the meeting the amendment is there. Open the meeting packet for today

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2018...17-63bf05d466b5/committee_public_policy_1600/

 

[K_W]

It's here. Drill down through the 1424 stuff.

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2018...17-63bf05d466b5/committee_public_policy_1600/

Not what we wanted obviously, but at least the prohibition expansions of the original version are gone. Next election, we get rid of Bosma, and we fight even harder.

 

[Mgderf]

Political musical chairs.
How do they think this will appease anyone?

 

[K_W]

Political musical chairs.
How do they think this will appease anyone?

It appeases Mom's Demand. The infringement of the licensing scheme remains, we'll just pay less for it.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Political musical chairs.
How do they think this will appease anyone?

It appeases Mom's Demand. The infringement of the licensing scheme remains, we'll just pay less for it.

It appeases LEOs. Jim mentioned the other day that they were exerting pressure and making supposed supporters all wobbly-kneed and they didn't want to be seen as opposing law enforcement. Thank your sheriffs and chiefs of police... and your rep for caring more about their votes than yours.

 

[K_W]

It appeases LEOs. Jim mentioned the other day that they were exerting pressure and making supposed supporters all wobbly-kneed and they didn't want to be seen as opposing law enforcement. Thank your sheriffs and chiefs of police... and your rep for caring more about their votes than yours.

With the reduction of fees, will they lose their funding anyway?

If not, next year Jim can author two bills; one to substitute funding, the other to restore ConCarry.

 

[brotherbill3]

With the reduction of fees, will they lose their funding anyway?

If not, next year Jim can author two bills; one to substitute funding, the other to restore ConCarry.

Jim already opened a pathway for funding LAST SESSION.
and he hasn't given up. based on what he posted (after a "long pause" following that meeting and probably others)
... he's as mad as any of us; or more.

 

[d.kaufman]

Drain the swamp! Our elected officials that are supposedly on our side are absolutely USELESS!!!!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Jim already opened a pathway for funding LAST SESSION.
and he hasn't given up. based on what he posted (after a "long pause" following that meeting and probably others)
... he's as mad as any of us; or more.

I hope he's got something up his sleeve and not just whistling a happy tune. I'll admit I'm disgruntled about this and may not be objectively thinking. I hope he really does have an plan B.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

I've been listening to Guy's podcasts every day while driving to/from work all the way back to November. He sounded positive and spoke of Lucas' bill (I believe IIRC).

So basically, Bosma stiffed them?

Time to go. Next. I'm sick and tire of hearing about Sunday sales and medical pot.

 

[Farmritch]

Tim Wesco is an idiot. I have no idea how he got voted in with the exception of he’s related to the Hilers from Indiana.
I don’t know how the Hilers pushed him or the machine into getting him elected but he has no business doing what he’s doing.
Grew up in a sheltered home with no idea what the real world is about.
A typical politician.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Wow, long day. Thanks for finding Amendment 5 BB3. They had limited hard copies so I didn't grab one. I know what I heard today but I haven't read it yet.

Even without reading it yet, I know it's not what we want. I also know this wasn't what I was expecting today. This Statehouse stuff is still pretty new to me.

THIS SHOULDN'T BE THIS HAAAARRRDDDDD!!!!! With that said we didn't move backwards today, but we didn't score the touchdown we want. Over the past two years we've moved in the right direction: persons protected by a protection order can now carry without an LTCH for 60 days, we got ConC to Summer Study, we're looking at 5 year NICS exempt licenses and free lifetime LTCH on the horizon. Church Carry (when church = school) is a pending bill and most importantly, the objections were by those allegedly representing LEOs were shown to be all about money.

 

[BigMoose]

From a person applying for a lifetime handgun license who
does not currently possess a valid Indiana handgun license, a fifty
dollar ($50) application fee, thirty dollars ($30) of which shall be
refunded if the license is not issued.
After June 30, 2019, the law enforcement agency shall not collect this fee.

From a person applying for a lifetime handgun license who
currently possesses a valid Indiana handgun license, a forty dollar
application fee, thirty dollars ($30) of which shall be refunded if the license is not issued.
After June 30, 2019, the law enforcement agency shall not collect this fee.

Okay so let me get this right.
Right now there are three fees I think.
It is $75 for the STATE fee
It is $50 for the LOCAL fee (that is just what IMPD charges)
I can't find what L1 Solutions charges for fingerprinting. When did IMPD quit doing the fingerprinting? The L1 thing was just for expediting the process.

So immediately the STATE fee goes from $75 to $50 ($60 to $30 if you have an active LTCH allready).
Then NEXT year on June 30, it goes to zero.

So after June 30 2019 I still pay IMPD 50 bucks and whatever L1 charges.

This isn't a touch down, it is more like a first down.
What worries me is that certain places will jack up the local fees to meet what they are now. They should put a CAP on local fees

 

[tbhausen]

1022 and 1424 were appealing to me because I want more good guys carrying guns more often. This doesn't do that. The pink card is an INFRINGEMENT, I don't care if they give the damn things away. I'm, well, pissed.

 

[cbhausen]

Who is responsible for the amendment? Who do we tar and feather?