I know Curt, he was probably talking with the Hoosier Carry guy Michael Thomas who spoke at the last Northern IN Concerned Citizens meeting. He probably thought he was doing the right thing and given the politics of his district they probably thought so too. He's pretty new to the assembly so his willingness to do things not exactly by the Marcus of Queensbury rules and make a fuss hasn't been broken yet, also he spends a lot of time talking with his districts conservative activists (not me, not my district) and stepping forward with their recommendations. He should have coordinated with Lucas though, that's just being polite.
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I know Curt, he was probably talking with the Hoosier Carry guy Michael Thomas who spoke at the last Northern IN Concerned Citizens meeting. He probably thought he was doing the right thing and given the politics of his district they probably thought so too. He's pretty new to the assembly so his willingness to do things not exactly by the Marcus of Queensbury rules and make a fuss hasn't been broken yet, also he spends a lot of time talking with his districts conservative activists (not me, not my district) and stepping forward with their recommendations. He should have coordinated with Lucas though, that's just being polite.
Kirk Freeman
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Marquess of Queensberry, let's not get sloppy.
You know, its kinda cute that dude thinks the legislators actually write the bills. Like, I can almost picture Lucus (sic) sitting in front of an old WordPerfect terminal with the mechanical keyboard (man, I kinda miss those clickety-clicks) pecking out the bill, complete with line numbers and revision typefaces.
Nostalgia, nectar of the dreamers.
Nostalgia, nectar of the dreamers.
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
Her? Dudley is right! Sloppiness abounds, not only by Lucus, but by INGO.
John. John Douglas was his name.
I think what these asshats pulled is ridiculous. I trust Jim Lucas and I will always support him
Lucas is a big boy, but voting against was a bit of a risky gambit. He doesn't have the PR machine to explain what he was doing, so it was easily misunderstood and twisted.
This Lucus guy, though, I don't think I like him much at all.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
did you mean Lucas in he second paragraph?
Marquess of Queensberry, let's not get sloppy.
D'oH!
No - I think this is a different guy.
I almost included a line in my rant about the poor bill drafters in the LSA dungeon, churning out page after page of bills and amendments, most of which will never see a vote. I used to have the secret decoder list, so you could tell from the DI number at the bottom of the bill who actually drafted it.
But then I was reminded that we were just feeding the trolls.
brotherbill3
Master
I almost included a line in my rant about the poor bill drafters in the LSA dungeon, churning out page after page of bills and amendments, most of which will never see a vote. I used to have the secret decoder list, so you could tell from the DI number at the bottom of the bill who actually drafted it.
But then I was reminded that we were just feeding the trolls.
Feeding them BurraHobbits ? (sorry just watched the end of the trilogy) ... LOLz.
Nisly's publicity stunt had zero chance of success. It was out of order (because it substantially resembled other legislation already under consideration), and was duly ruled out of order.
Apparently, some people are "so drunk on wanting constitutional carry" that they fail to recognize that there is a process for getting legislation passed, and favor pointless publicity stunts that could substantially harm the legitimate efforts to get constitutional carry passed.
People ask me why I pound my keyboard...because I learned to type on and went through college with a manual...
I know we're getting kind of off topic here, but did you end up with really light strikes on your "a" and "l" letters (asks the guy who learned typing in HS in 1978)?
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
Jacke,
Kirk has asked you to "show your work"... in other words, it's easy to just make statements without anything backing them up. If you're going to slander (or libel) anyone, you had better have your ducks in a row, and have something more than falsehoods and accusations, more so if you're going to try and do it to a well-respected and honorable man like Jim Lucas (who is also an INGO member)
I add the parenthetical note above, regarding his membership here, because it is possible you didn't know that fact. Now you do. Please do note that the site rules to which you agreed no more than two months ago do not allow for insulting another INGO member.
Tread carefully. Show facts, not opinions, not interpretations, and let people judge for themselves who is "lazy" and who actually works to further our lawful ability to exercise our rights in this state.
I'll start: Jim Lucas recently posted a picture (at about 5AM) of the State Capitol, which included the comment that he was "going to work" and that he loved his job. In addition, as shown in GFGT's post #823, you can look to see what legislation Jim Lucas has authored and supported.
If you have similar (posted prior to this issue coming up) from Nisly or any other current legislator, showing a stronger pro-2A record, I invite you to post it up.
The ball is in your court.
Blessings,
Bill
Kirk has asked you to "show your work"... in other words, it's easy to just make statements without anything backing them up. If you're going to slander (or libel) anyone, you had better have your ducks in a row, and have something more than falsehoods and accusations, more so if you're going to try and do it to a well-respected and honorable man like Jim Lucas (who is also an INGO member)
I add the parenthetical note above, regarding his membership here, because it is possible you didn't know that fact. Now you do. Please do note that the site rules to which you agreed no more than two months ago do not allow for insulting another INGO member.
Tread carefully. Show facts, not opinions, not interpretations, and let people judge for themselves who is "lazy" and who actually works to further our lawful ability to exercise our rights in this state.
I'll start: Jim Lucas recently posted a picture (at about 5AM) of the State Capitol, which included the comment that he was "going to work" and that he loved his job. In addition, as shown in GFGT's post #823, you can look to see what legislation Jim Lucas has authored and supported.
If you have similar (posted prior to this issue coming up) from Nisly or any other current legislator, showing a stronger pro-2A record, I invite you to post it up.
The ball is in your court.
Blessings,
Bill
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