I am *begging* you, stop carrying on an empty chamber.

[Birds Away]

I see what you mean tombs, like the grip safety on 1911's. I mean the manual safety that you have to move your thumb or other finger up to disengage. One more step that would slow down response time. As for the rest of your comment...I'm in 100% agreement.

I really hope you are not advocating carrying a 1911 without the thumb safety engaged.

 

[Bigtanker]

BB, has enough time gone by to give a few more details on what happened?

 

[South Bender]

I just read all 522 posts. I need to go lie down.

 

[nakinate]

I just read all 522 posts. I need to go lie down.

I salute your dedication.

 

[HamYankee]

I carry Condition Zero, but I certainly do think there are scenarios that I have read where a gun, even if the slide had to be racked, would have helped.
I don't disagree that it is best to carry ready to shoot, but I would bet for every example where a second cost somebody their life, there is an example where someone had a few seconds they wish they would have had some type of gun, no matter if it was locked and loaded.

I would like to read some examples, if you can post something.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I carry Condition Zero, but I certainly do think there are scenarios that I have read where a gun, even if the slide had to be racked, would have helped.
I don't disagree that it is best to carry ready to shoot, but I would bet for every example where a second cost somebody their life, there is an example where someone had a few seconds they wish they would have had some type of gun, no matter if it was locked and loaded.

I would like to read some examples, if you can post something.

Examples of what?

 

[jamil]

I carry Condition Zero, but I certainly do think there are scenarios that I have read where a gun, even if the slide had to be racked, would have helped.
I don't disagree that it is best to carry ready to shoot, but I would bet for every example where a second cost somebody their life, there is an example where someone had a few seconds they wish they would have had some type of gun, no matter if it was locked and loaded.

I would like to read some examples, if you can post something.

If you mean examples of real life consequences, read this thread.

 

[iChokePeople]

I carry Condition Zero, but I certainly do think there are scenarios that I have read where a gun, even if the slide had to be racked, would have helped.
I don't disagree that it is best to carry ready to shoot, but I would bet for every example where a second cost somebody their life, there is an example where someone had a few seconds they wish they would have had some type of gun, no matter if it was locked and loaded.

I would like to read some examples, if you can post something.

False dichotomy for the win.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

Hmmm. Anyone want to try to translate that?

 

[jwh20]

Dichotomy:

a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

Dichotomy:

LOL! That I get. I mean HamYankee's post.

LOL!

 

[jamil]

LOL! That I get. I mean HamYankee's post.

LOL!

I'll give it a go.

I carry Condition Zero, but I certainly do think there are scenarios that I have read where a gun, even if the slide had to be racked, would have helped.
I don't disagree that it is best to carry ready to shoot, but I would bet for every example where a second cost somebody their life, there is an example where someone had a few seconds they wish they would have had some type of gun, no matter if it was locked and loaded.

I would like to read some examples, if you can post something.

He carries locked and loaded but thinks that having a gun ready-to-go or not, is better than having none at all. At least that's what I got out of it, though I admit some lines needed reading in between. I could be completely wrong.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

OK. Let's go with that. So, having a gun when you need it is better than not having one, even if it's not ready to shoot.

I suppose.

 

[Fordtough25]

I carried without one in the chamber for awhile but after serious thought I realized I would be dead before I could draw and get the gun into action. Being that I have one to three of my kids most of the time I carry ready to go.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

OK. Let's go with that. So, having a gun when you need it is better than not having one, even if it's not ready to shoot.

I suppose.

...unless compliance would have resulted in you not being injured, you pull your non-functional firearm because you are armed and don't have to comply, and catch a bullet as a result. I truly hate the "its better than nothing" argument, because sometimes it isn't. If you're going to escalate the situation, you better be prepared to end it fast and hard.

 

[jamil]

...unless compliance would have resulted in you not being injured, you pull your non-functional firearm because you are armed and don't have to comply, and catch a bullet as a result. I truly hate the "its better than nothing" argument, because sometimes it isn't. If you're going to escalate the situation, you better be prepared to end it fast and hard.

That's why I suggested he read this thread for an example.

 

[nakinate]

...unless compliance would have resulted in you not being injured, you pull your non-functional firearm because you are armed and don't have to comply, and catch a bullet as a result. I truly hate the "its better than nothing" argument, because sometimes it isn't. If you're going to escalate the situation, you better be prepared to end it fast and hard.

That's what I was thinking. I may not draw in every situation. If I feel I may cause more harm than good by drawing then I won't do it. Drawing an unchambered gun on someone who already had their gun out is likely a suicidal move.

 

[printcraft]

That's what I was thinking. I may not draw in every situation. If I feel I may cause more harm than good by drawing then I won't do it. Drawing an unchambered gun on someone who already had their gun out is likely a suicidal move.

Unless you are oldpink.

 

[JollyMon]

Unless you are oldpink.

Less then a second to draw, chamber a round, aim, and hit a moving dog.... did he run around a corner first?

 

[printcraft]

Less then a second to draw, chamber a round, aim, and hit a moving dog.... did he run around a corner first?

I think he did run around the corner but not before he took out the ninja that was following him with a well aimed hard look.