Hypothetical Assault Weapon Ban Question...

[Cameramonkey]

And the massacre over the weekend was like a microcosm of the future with gun control. It is almost like a model of the future with banned guns.

Were guns legally allowed in the club, or was it a gun free zone? Yet in walks a banned, "illegal" gun and destroys the occupants who were 100% unarmed because they are law abiding citizens.

Now imagine that club is a model of a future society where NOBODY can have a legal gun. Did the ban prevent the massacre? Did it help those law abiding citizens? Were they safer as-is, or would it have helped if they had the option of possessing their own gun?

 

[frenchiectfd2203]

 

[rob63]

Obviously preaching to the choir, but I do try to point out to anybody I know that they have to use the qualifier "worst mass shooting" because they can't say "worst mass killing." Airplanes, fertilizer, even a gallon of gasoline, have done worse in US history and could still be used regardless of what gun laws are passed.

 

[actaeon277]

Worse mass shooting? I guess Wounded Knee doesn't count.

 

[edporch]

And the massacre over the weekend was like a microcosm of the future with gun control. It is almost like a model of the future with banned guns.

Were guns legally allowed in the club, or was it a gun free zone? Yet in walks a banned, "illegal" gun and destroys the occupants who were 100% unarmed because they are law abiding citizens.

Now imagine that club is a model of a future society where NOBODY can have a legal gun. Did the ban prevent the massacre? Did it help those law abiding citizens? Were they safer as-is, or would it have helped if they had the option of possessing their own gun?

According to Florida law, it's illegal to carry in a bar, even with a carry permit.
I would bet Mateen knew this, and like in most of these cases picked a place where nobody would be armed to resist.

In Indiana, it's not illegal to carry concealed in a bar with a permit, and I would bet the outcome would've been LARGELY different had Mateen walked into a bar in Indiana with 320 or so people.
He'd have had several likely shooting back at him.
There would've also not been a hostage situation either.

I'm sure the terrorist nutjobs love the idea of more gun control and more restrictions.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Worse mass shooting? I guess Wounded Knee doesn't count.

It never counts when govt does the killing.

 

[junk]

It never counts when govt does the killing.

who's government ?

 

[Dosproduction]

Lol agree if the government killed them don't count.

 

[BogWalker]

Ugh, media is trying its best to be stupid. WTHR 13 was talking about his guns and said (I paraphrase some) "the only firearms tracked by BATF are so called "gangster weapons" like machineguns, fully automatic AK-47's, and sawed-off shotguns".

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Ugh, media is trying its best to be stupid. WTHR 13 was talking about his guns and said (I paraphrase some) "the only firearms tracked by BATF are so called "gangster weapons" like machineguns, fully automatic AK-47's, and sawed-off shotguns".

They are not stupid, just ignorant. Blind men attempting to describe an elephant.

Channel 13 is describing the NFA registry, but it does not know what it is.

 

[Willie]

Ugh, media is trying its best to be stupid. WTHR 13 was talking about his guns and said (I paraphrase some) "the only firearms tracked by BATF are so called "gangster weapons" like machineguns, fully automatic AK-47's, and sawed-off shotguns".

The get their information from our elected reps..

Where can I buy one of these ARs..?

Alan Grayson claims AR-15 rifles can fire '700 rounds in a minute' after Orlando terror attack - Washington Times

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The get their information from our elected reps..

Where can I buy one of these ARs..?

Alan Grayson claims AR-15 rifles can fire '700 rounds in a minute' after Orlando terror attack - Washington Times

At a gun shop near you.

 

[indykid]

Our president is so quick to point out that this murdering scum does not represent all Muslims, but he has no problem saying that this murdering scum does represent firearm owners?

Also heard King Barack talk about the Glock that the murdering scum used, which was capable of "being loaded with multiple clips".

I won't even get started about all the talking heads calling it a fully automatic high powered rifle when in the cell phone videos you can hear the one shot per trigger pull timing of an AR-15. Heck with full auto being so uncontrollable with a single trigger pull to empty mag, more people might be alive if he really did have a full auto.

 

[Drail]

If the Govt. is willing to totally defy and ignore the Constitution then there is absolutely no limit to what they can do. To severely limit the Govt. was the reason they wrote a Constitution and formed a Republic. Back in 1776 when the British announced total absolute gun control 3% of the Colonists banded together and killed as many of them as they could with help from the French until the pompous Brits gave up and went home. I really don't think many Americans are willing to go that far today - not even 3%, but that's what it takes to stop a despotic Govt. Voting ain't going to do it when they force us to use electronic voting machines and the whole process is rigged from the start and ALL of the candidates are on the take. To steal a quote from Hunter S. Thompson - Washington is a long filthy trench where pimps and thieves and liars run free........but there is also a dark side......... The Jews saw it in '38 - and we are seeing it now. It is nothing new - it's been going on for thousands of years. It is the main reason that firearms were invented and it is precisely why they want to take them away from us. If you want to know where we are going study the history of where we have been.

 

[SSGSAD]

The get their information from our elected reps..

Where can I buy one of these ARs..?

Alan Grayson claims AR-15 rifles can fire '700 rounds in a minute' after Orlando terror attack - Washington Times

You, know what I haven't heard, is WHAT KIND of weapon, was USED, by the POLICE, to do this guy, in .....

 

[NyleRN]

At a gun shop near you.

Or online and have it shipped directly to your door step

 

[actaeon277]

The get their information from our elected reps..

Where can I buy one of these ARs..?

Alan Grayson claims AR-15 rifles can fire '700 rounds in a minute' after Orlando terror attack - Washington Times

At a gun shop near you.

I would be bankrupt in a few minutes

 

[Thor]

Without confiscation they cannot achieve their ends...so all prospective laws will eventually lead to confiscation. No exceptions, even my early 1800's flintlock pistol would not be excluded...or most of my swords and knives. I mean, what would I need those for if I didn't plan on questioning their authority?

The guns used to guard the concentration camps were confiscated from the political opponents of the fascists. It would be no different here. And it is important to remember that fascism is an economic system not necessarily an anti-Semitic ideology. As in all totalitarian regimes if you disagree you will be eliminated...that is the end purpose of all gun control. They can not convince you that their way is right so they must put you in a position to not disagree.

 

[Dean C.]

Moot point, I and the rest of INGO would have either sold or lost every single one of our collective guns in a very very deep lake. To answer the original question they would have to grandfather in all the old guns as no one in their right mind would ever turn them in. Maybe they would required to be registered much like a Silencer or an SBR is currently to limit the transfer.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Moot point, I and the rest of INGO would have either sold or lost every single one of our collective guns in a very very deep lake. To answer the original question they would have to grandfather in all the old guns as no one in their right mind would ever turn them in. Maybe they would required to be registered much like a Silencer or an SBR is currently to limit the transfer.

No one in his right mind would comply with registration, either.