Ok, they are ugly, bulky, and heavy, but for the price you get a very dependable gun. Does anyone here have a Hi Point gun? My brother has the C9, 40, and 45ACP. When we go to a range everyone always ends up shooting these guns and falls in love with them. Im in the process of buying the C9 and 40 cal. Yes there all better guns but for the price, they cannot be beat if you are looking for a handgun at $200 dollars or lower. They come with a life time warranty and their customer service is Top notch.