HELP: Banned from restaurant for CCW

[RabbleRouser]

closest I could find with my google-fu is IC 35-47-4 which deals more with knowingly giving a firearm to a person who is already intoxicated or it known to get intoxicated....nothing about getting intoxicated while in posession of a firearm.

 

[Roadie]

If my understanding of Indiana law is correct, you should not have been carrying in a bar if you were consuming alcohol. As for the ban, yes, they can do that. If they really wanted to push the matter, it is possible that you could have lost your license to carry. Any private business has the right to ban firearms from their premises, and if it is posted as such, violating their policy can result in revocation of your license if Law Enforcement gets involved. I'd say you got lucky.

I've seen it before, but I can't remember where. I've always erred on the side of caution.

That said, what is the law in regards to alcohol consumption while carrying (or is there one at all)?

Indeed! Hopefully they stick around .

But I hear watching the banhammer fall is so much more fun... when it's not me/us.

Doesn't prove a whole lot, but a little. I have AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon all with devices that can roll IPs (dynamic IPs). Reason being - my business is internet-based and time-critical. If one of my ISPs is down, I have to have a fall-back and it's critical enough that I have two. Even have a small generator + UPS so that I can continue working in a power outage for an extended period even once my laptop battery is dead (around 6 hours of use).

That said, I have better/more important things to do with my time than to pretend to be more than one person. So you are right, I am just me and nobody else (I hope).

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/indiana.pdf

 

[C.M.Burns]

reply to topgun9

im sorry to say this, but you embarrass all of us concealed carriers. It is called "concealed" for a reason. Never ever ever pull your gun out unless it's yours or someone else's life on the line. Never pull a gun out in public unless it is for that reason only. I am only 21 and I know this. Guns are serious if you don't know that. That is really just embarrassing. If other people saw that they could feel immediately threatened, call the police, or someone else with an unstable, impulsive mind pull one on you.

just cause you're a little drunk or buzzed doesn't give you the right to show off. sorry to dog you but damn. i dont want to stereotype but whoever you people are, you make me nervous.

 

[Caleb]

Yes they can ban you.

Its called Trespass.

Their property, their rules.

Generally speaking, never unholster a weapon in a public place. Bad form, good way to get tossed out.

If anything, be happy they didn't call the police and request you be formally 'trespassed' off the property. Doing that would legally ban you from the property. They did you a favor, said stay away for the rest of the year. What you did was pretty silly.

This...upholstering in public is a dumb move, now you have to pay a stupid tax. Bartender did you a favor, now learn from your mistake.

 

[jd4320t]

 

[CTS]

im sorry to say this, but you embarrass all of us concealed carriers. It is called "concealed" for a reason. Never ever ever pull your gun out unless it's yours or someone else's life on the line. Never pull a gun out in public unless it is for that reason only. I am only 21 and I know this. Guns are serious if you don't know that. That is really just embarrassing. If other people saw that they could feel immediately threatened, call the police, or someone else with an unstable, impulsive mind pull one on you.

Even if you're open carrying you still don't unholster.

 

[ATM]

You folks need to give it a rest. There's nothing wrong with upholstering...

 

[actaeon277]

im sorry to say this, but you embarrass all of us concealed carriers. It is called "concealed" for a reason. Never ever ever pull your gun out unless it's yours or someone else's life on the line. Never pull a gun out in public unless it is for that reason only. I am only 21 and I know this. Guns are serious if you don't know that. That is really just embarrassing. If other people saw that they could feel immediately threatened, call the police, or someone else with an unstable, impulsive mind pull one on you.

just cause you're a little drunk or buzzed doesn't give you the right to show off. sorry to dog you but damn. i dont want to stereotype but whoever you people are, you make me nervous.

The OP is not being taken to task for OC or CC.
It's for removing his firearm from the holster, and coonfingering it.

 

[bigus_D]

IMHO I think the title is inaccurate, it should be "Banned from restaurant for coonfingering firearm"?

This! Once you pulled it out "without thinking" you were no longer concealed.

 

[public servant]

Seriously, WTF? It's not show and tell.

Hey ya'll...watch this!

 

[Bapak2ja]

Hey ya'll...watch this!

LOL. Great song, BTW, but I don't think he got the girl. At least no one called the sheriff.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Well, this turned in to one, first class, dog pile....classic.

 

[miguel]

Maybe you can grow a moustache or beard, wear fake glasses and sneak in.

 

[Shadow8088]

Well, this turned in to one, first class, dog pile....classic.

lol, welcome to INGO..

 

[miguel]

Damn, I accidentally signed into my 'IndyDave1776' account for that last post... Meant to do it as some-other-forum-user.

Dammit, it was my turn to be IndyDave1776 this week!

 

[DFM914]

Not a smart move, they have the right to ban anyone they like. This may have been a good lesson for you.

 

[ViperJock]

My friend wanted to see my Springfield 1911 EMP 9mm. Without thinking it through I unholstered and unloaded the gun before showing it to him at the bar. ?

There are somethings you should never unholster in public except in case of an emergency. This is one of them.

 

[Expat]

Well, this turned in to one, first class, dog pile....classic.

and the thread just kept giving more and more... then he tried to claim again that a property owner can't keep him out... then we have some guy inventing laws about not being allowed to carry in bars... then we learn we have some fellas that are into hand upholstery work...

 

[evsnova74]

So what do you think....mbills2223 and MikeDVB are the same guy with 2 INGO profiles? One posts and the other pats him on the back. I don't think I need 2 profiles.....

Okay, who started a new account just to post this question?

From the FAQ:

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That's probably not much of an issue here...

OP, hang in there, the only cure for ignorance is knowledge. Looks like you've got plenty of that now. If ya don't know any better, ya don't know any better. Just be glad you chose this course of action (coming to INGO to learn), spend enough time here and threads like this will teach you a lot without having to make similar mistakes yourself. Shake it off, rub some dirt on it, move on.

 

[indytechnerd]

Sadly, my only contribution to this trainwreck is that ATM did a fine job painting his toenails, but I'm not a fan of that fabric for the dining room chairs.