Have fun with 5/3 in Franklin

[snorko]

Saw this on the sig forum, anyone here hear of this.

This Bank Branch Takes "No Guns Allowed" Very Seriously.... - Topic

I don't know what I would do first, call my lawyer for a civil suit or call all my friends to go to the bank with a magazine on their belt.

 

[GBuck]

There are tons of banks in Indy that have those. Most are M&I, Huntington or 5/3.

What I thought was funny/sad is that right after they got popular, instead of robbing the bank, they criminals were just hitting the customers entering and exiting the banks. One guy got smart and went inside and passed a note that he had plastic explosives inside his bag and if they didn't give him all the money he would detonate. Thank God for these gun free zones.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Saw this on the sig forum, anyone here hear of this.

This Bank Branch Takes "No Guns Allowed" Very Seriously.... - Topic

I don't know what I would do first, call my lawyer for a civil suit or call all my friends to go to the bank with a magazine on their belt.

I'd be tempted to take my AR for a stroll...

"You have gun!"

"No, this is my rifle, THIS is my gun..."

 

[Titanium_Frost]

There are tons of banks in Indy that have those. Most are M&I, Huntington or 5/3.

What I thought was funny/sad is that right after they got popular, instead of robbing the bank, they criminals were just hitting the customers entering and exiting the banks. One guy got smart and went inside and passed a note that he had plastic explosives inside his bag and if they didn't give him all the money he would detonate. Thank God for these gun free zones.

You know what I think is REALLY sad? That they still have any customers at all. I just can't fathom a person that would want to be treated like they were visiting a prison just to do their banking.

 

[GBuck]

You know what I think is REALLY sad? That they still have any customers at all. I just can't fathom a person that would want to be treated like they were visiting a prison just to do their banking.

QFT.

I left Huntington for this reason.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

QFT.

I left Huntington for this reason.

Good for you. I hope they know why you left as well. (And had a guard escort your sorry unarmed ass out to your car with all of your money)

BTW I wonder if you were pocket or ankle CCing and said you didn't have a gun, would they let you in if you lifted up your shirt?

 

[GBuck]

Good for you. I hope they know why you left as well. (And had a guard escort your sorry unarmed ass out to your car with all of your money)

BTW I wonder if you were pocket or ankle CCing and said you didn't have a gun, would they let you in if you lifted up your shirt?

The metal detectors have a series of lights that show what part of the body is causing the alarm.

 

[mrortega]

I'd be tempted to take my AR for a stroll...

"You have gun!"

"No, this is my rifle, THIS is my gun..."

FIFY

 

[mrortega]

My 5/3 branch on the west side is OC friendly. I've been in there a number of times OCing to the counter and to one of the customer service people in the private offices. Never a problem. I even told my one friend once when there was a really scrungy dude in line (after 2 hold ups at the Diamond Valley Federal Credit Union) that if any sh** went down I was going to close her glass door and draw my pistol. She said, "sounds good to me." Turned out to be just a typical west side hillbilly like me

 

[serf]

I left fifth third a long time ago. the man trap is scary. they have the man trap at the branch near 38th and college, and it disturbed me even before I started carrying. i left them for reasons separate from their anti2a stance, but it does remind me that i made the correct choice.

 

[bluewraith]

So what about steel toed boots or a big cowboy buckle? ...or even plates and screws that hold you together!?

"You have gun?" "No, but I do have a Prince Albert"

 

[LP1]

There are tons of banks in Indy that have those. Most are M&I, Huntington or 5/3.

The M&I branches that I go to no longer have "no guns" signs.

 

[Somemedic]

I would think the local fire dept. or state fire marshal would take exception to locking folks in anything. Couldn't they be charged with at least criminal confinement?

 

[Oldbird13]

They need a trap at that location. Mant times I see a cop sitting in a car in parking lot.

 

[Indy317]

This is a slam dunk lawsuit. This is confinement. It is one thing for the second entry door to lock to prohibit entry into the building, but to also lock the only way to exit....unlawful confinement. On the other thread, the branch manager apparently said that they are only supposed to lock the person in if they see a gun....they have no right to do that unless the security officer knows 1, 2 or 3 of the below law.

IC 35-33-1-4 Any person
Sec. 4. (a) Any person may arrest any other person if:
(1) the other person committed a felony in his presence;
(2) a felony has been committed and he has probable cause to believe that the other person has committed that felony; or
(3) a misdemeanor involving a breach of peace is being committed in his presence and the arrest is necessary to prevent the continuance of the breach of peace.
(b) A person making an arrest under this section shall, as soon as practical, notify a law enforcement officer and deliver custody of the person arrested to a law enforcement officer.
(c) The law enforcement officer may process the arrested person as if the officer had arrested him. The officer who receives or processes a person arrested by another under this section is not liable for false arrest or false imprisonment.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Thanks Indy317. Also what is your opinion of a cop searching you after you were trapped in there? Would they have any authority or automatic RAS for a search?

Something else I was thinking of is if they locked someone in there who was claustrophobic for a few minutes and they had a panic attack.

 

[thebishopp]

This is a slam dunk lawsuit. This is confinement. It is one thing for the second entry door to lock to prohibit entry into the building, but to also lock the only way to exit....unlawful confinement. On the other thread, the branch manager apparently said that they are only supposed to lock the person in if they see a gun....they have no right to do that unless the security officer knows 1, 2 or 3 of the below law.

IC 35-33-1-4 Any person
Sec. 4. (a) Any person may arrest any other person if:
(1) the other person committed a felony in his presence;
(2) a felony has been committed and he has probable cause to believe that the other person has committed that felony; or
(3) a misdemeanor involving a breach of peace is being committed in his presence and the arrest is necessary to prevent the continuance of the breach of peace.
(b) A person making an arrest under this section shall, as soon as practical, notify a law enforcement officer and deliver custody of the person arrested to a law enforcement officer.
(c) The law enforcement officer may process the arrested person as if the officer had arrested him. The officer who receives or processes a person arrested by another under this section is not liable for false arrest or false imprisonment.

Yup I can't wait for them to install these in Evansville. Got my eye on some new toys I could use a nice settlement to buy.

 

[thebishopp]

Thanks Indy317. Also what is your opinion of a cop searching you after you were trapped in there? Would they have any authority or automatic RAS for a search?

Something else I was thinking of is if they locked someone in there who was claustrophobic for a few minutes and they had a panic attack.

The thing is one would not have done anything criminal at this point. The signs do not have the force of law, in addition they can't say you refused to leave because they locked you in.

Seems to me the police should of asked the bank manager/employee if the person made any threats or indicated in some way that he was robbing the bank. When the employee said "no" the officer should have promptly arrested the employee for criminal confinement (or whatever the appropriate charge would be).

 

[Indy317]

Thanks Indy317. Also what is your opinion of a cop searching you after you were trapped in there? Would they have any authority or automatic RAS for a search?

It would depend on what the cops were told. Here you likely have the security guard calling 911 and then dispatchers advising the cops. The officer could be getting information two or three people removed. I think the officers would definitely have RAS for a Terry frisk, but if they didn't find anything, no further reason to investigate. If the officer felt a gun in the pat down of outer garments, then they could clearly ask for LTCH.

Something else I was thinking of is if they locked someone in there who was claustrophobic for a few minutes and they had a panic attack.

If that is the case, just add another 0 to the check.

Yup I can't wait for them to install these in Evansville. Got my eye on some new toys I could use a nice settlement to buy.

I've heard of these things, and I'm kinda surprised the legal departments are OKing these. My guess is that with all large entities, there is likely mixed messages. The lawyers likely think the devices only prohibit entry, but don't confine the person, or that the programing is supposed to be set to prohibit entry only. After the first few lawsuits, you can bet instructions will be made much clearer.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Make sure if you get locked in one that you call 911 first and report that you are being held against your will.