Gun Carrier Drops Pistol, Wounds 2, Arrested

[THE BIG SITT]

Cheap fanny pack or not, was it even zipped up? I have tons of cheap fanny packs from when they were a rage and every business project gave them out as gifts, even the cheap ones will not open up by itself.

You do know that any and everyone can see the things you post on the internet right?

 

[HoughMade]

...Steve Malloy called. He is listed as the government's expert witness.

I have a motion strike the testimony of a dead guy that I can e-mail.

 

[singlesix]

You do know that any and everyone can see the things you post on the internet right?

If this was a British site I'd be in big trouble.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I have a motion strike the testimony of a dead guy that I can e-mail.

That will be denied at this time under the IRE, INGO Rules of Evidence.

 

[rhino]

So how many times has a Glock, M&P, XD, 5906, P226, CZ75B, HK USP, etc. discharged when dropped on the ground?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So how many times has a Glock, M&P, XD, 5906, P226, CZ75B, HK USP, etc. discharged when dropped on the ground?

Couldn't tell you an exact number, but I have posted those stories as well.

 

[rhino]

Couldn't tell you an exact number, but I have posted those stories as well.

I remain skeptical, sir.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I remain skeptical, sir.

Remain as you like, my posts remain as well. It can happen to all guns.

Don't get cocky and all that jazz.

 

[Webster-dl]

I dunno. Discharging when falling on its muzzle. I remember that 1911's had that problem...maybe still do. I freely admit I don't know.

But if he was trying to carry a full-size 1911 in a fanny pack...maybe that was the problem. Wrong fit of carrying device. If he had an LCP in there, maybe that would have come out differently?

 

[searpinski]

Reckless assuault is definitely more applicable than assault. He should be charged with idiocy, however.

 

[88E30M50]

I blame the anti-gunners for crap like this. Seriously, I do. This is what happens when you recognize a person's right to carry, yet deny any attempt at public education regarding proper carry. Kids in school learn about libel, slander and other legal aspects of the 1st Amendment, but any discussion of the Second is verboten. There are public service messages about drunk driving, driving while texting and others, but nothing about safe gun carry. We live in a time when non-gun people are recognizing the need to carry but have no idea the 4 rules even exist. This is the result.

 

[GIJEW]

I blame the anti-gunners for crap like this. Seriously, I do. This is what happens when you recognize a person's right to carry, yet deny any attempt at public education regarding proper carry. Kids in school learn about libel, slander and other legal aspects of the 1st Amendment, but any discussion of the Second is verboten. There are public service messages about drunk driving, driving while texting and others, but nothing about safe gun carry. We live in a time when non-gun people are recognizing the need to carry but have no idea the 4 rules even exist. This is the result.

^^^^THIS!!!!^^^^. When my son was in kindergarten, and the teachers had a lecture about the hazards of BB guns (their NOT toys, kids), my wife offered to loan them a copy of NRA's "eddie eagle" video. The response was "oh no, that's about REAL guns." PC stupidity.

 

[GIJEW]

I had a friend who decided to carry his Glock with an empty chamber after a negligent discharge. Like 'dirty harry' said: "a man's got to know his limitations"

 

[singlesix]

I blame the anti-gunners for crap like this. Seriously, I do. This is what happens when you recognize a person's right to carry, yet deny any attempt at public education regarding proper carry. Kids in school learn about libel, slander and other legal aspects of the 1st Amendment, but any discussion of the Second is verboten. There are public service messages about drunk driving, driving while texting and others, but nothing about safe gun carry. We live in a time when non-gun people are recognizing the need to carry but have no idea the 4 rules even exist. This is the result.

Would you support mandatory training to get a carry permit?

 

[red_zr24x4]

I blame the anti-gunners for crap like this. Seriously, I do. This is what happens when you recognize a person's right to carry, yet deny any attempt at public education regarding proper carry. Kids in school learn about libel, slander and other legal aspects of the 1st Amendment, but any discussion of the Second is verboten. There are public service messages about drunk driving, driving while texting and others, but nothing about safe gun carry. We live in a time when non-gun people are recognizing the need to carry but have no idea the 4 rules even exist. This is the result.

Would you support mandatory training to get a carry permit?

Not a manditory class, but I would be all for an elective class in school. My youngest took a hunter safty class in middle school as an elective.

 

[drillsgt]

While I see your point I also disagree. I carry a firearm so I can conviently access it if the need should arise. I see no problem carrying a holstered firearm in a fanny pack if that is the only thing occupying that pouch. Other than a crime against fashion it is not a all or nothing issue.

It can be comfortable and safe if done right.

I have one of the small galco packs I use on long bike rides, it's a convenient way to carry and they have an internal strap as well as good zippers, doubt this person had a FP made for guns.

 

[rhino]

Remain as you like, my posts remain as well. It can happen to all guns.

Don't get cocky and all that jazz.

My skepticism is of the claims of the witnesses, not your second or third hand reporting of such claims. I've listened to quite a few tales of "it went off when I dropped it" that were far more likely to have had a finger and negligence involved, with subsequent lying to make it seem like an accident.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Fingers on triggers is the way to bet, but guns do not need fingers to go bang.

 

[chezuki]

Fingers on triggers is the way to bet, but guns do not need fingers to go bang.

I doubt your 870 was involved.

While maybe not impossible, the guns Rhino mentioned discharging from a drop is probably far less likely than hitting the lottery without buying a ticket.

 

[rhino]

Fingers on triggers is the way to bet, but guns do not need fingers to go bang.

Agreed, but it depends on the make and model.

Your 870? I can believe it. A cheapie derringer? I can believe it. A Raven? Sure.

Glock 19? FN? M&P? Very, very skeptical.

I doubt your 870 was involved.

While maybe not impossible, the guns Rhino mentioned discharging from a drop is probably far less likely than hitting the lottery without buying a ticket.

What you said!