Government response to Boston Marathon bombs; warrantless searches & soldiers

[Destro]

A few thousand of them. All the people who committed the murders were killed, and most were from Saudi. Did that justify invading Iraq and losing a few thousand more, at a cost of trillions?

All of the murderers were also male, and middle-eastern. Does that justify molesting toddlers and old white people at the airport?

Does the fact that a loony shoots up a school justify giving up our firearms?

How many liberties are you willing to give up every time some insane person commits a murder?

point 1 - No, it did not justify ending Saddam Hussein's exestencial threat to the United States, that was unique and self sustaining.

point 2 - Everyone was groped and molested at the airport 20+ years before 9/11. X-rays and metal detectors are nothing new. For some reason when we gave therm a sweater vest and a $2 an hour raise it became an issue.

point 3- no silly

point 4 - none, and I don't believe anybody was denied liberty in Mass.

 

[Sgtusmc]

point 2 - Everyone was groped and molested at the airport 20+ years before 9/11. X-rays and metal detectors are nothing new....

I remember being 13 in 1983 traveling by myself on an airplane from here to Florida and back. My carry on baggage included a bow, several razor tip arrows, a 'ninja' sword, and an assortment of knives. Nobody said squat.

 

[Mark 1911]

Door to door searches? I made a comment to my wife last night as all this was going down. My first reaction was anger. My wife didn't understand why it upset me, but one amateur bomber does not give them the right to enter my home. I am sorry for the injuries and loss of life, but why does that mean my rights are suddenly tossed aside. I don't think so.

 

[Nim]

I was quite stunned by the MASSIVE mobilization of forces so quickly plus how the populace was so fully controlled by this.

One bad guy shut down a large city for an entire day and the people cowered inside their houses, based solely on the govt. saying they should.

 

[EOD Guy]

Door to door searches? I made a comment to my wife last night as all this was going down. My first reaction was anger. My wife didn't understand why it upset me, but one amateur bomber does not give them the right to enter my home. I am sorry for the injuries and loss of life, but why does that mean my rights are suddenly tossed aside. I don't think so.

Well said. IMO this was one of the worst overreactions I've seen in a long time.

 

[jbombelli]

Door to door searches? I made a comment to my wife last night as all this was going down. My first reaction was anger. My wife didn't understand why it upset me, but one amateur bomber does not give them the right to enter my home. I am sorry for the injuries and loss of life, but why does that mean my rights are suddenly tossed aside. I don't think so.

Then by all means say "no" when they're at your door.

Just because they ask to search something or somewhere doesn't mean you have to let them.

 

[TheReaper]

Door to door searches? I made a comment to my wife last night as all this was going down. My first reaction was anger. My wife didn't understand why it upset me, but one amateur bomber does not give them the right to enter my home. I am sorry for the injuries and loss of life, but why does that mean my rights are suddenly tossed aside. I don't think so.

This is the problem, people like you overreact and think they're going door to door and kicking doors in and searching or forcing their way in. You simply say, "no thanks, everything is under control here." and then they leave.

These were consensual searches, nobody has any proof otherwise.

Good grief!

You may need to listen to your wife a little more often.

 

[churchmouse]

Well said. IMO this was one of the worst overreactions I've seen in a long time.

HHhmmmmmmmm................

 

[TheReaper]

Well said. IMO this was one of the worst overreactions I've seen in a long time.

You are correct, that goes for 90 percent of the people in this thread!

 

[cbseniour]

Can you spell Patriot Act?

 

[mrjarrell]

Can you spell Patriot Act?

Yep. A.T.R.O.C.I.T.Y.

 

[Destro]

still waiting for someone to explain what the "propper" response was,

and assumptions that there were any types of types of 4th ammendment violations are simply that, assumptions.

Thankfully, nobody waited on INGO for how to respond to the incident, if we did, we would still be debating on how to dress and if they should be allowed to wear body armor

 

[Jludo]

still waiting for someone to explain what the "propper" response was,

and assumptions that there were any types of types of 4th ammendment violations are simply that, assumptions.

Thankfully, nobody waited on INGO for how to respond to the incident, if we did, we would still be debating on how to dress and if they should be allowed to wear body armor

You respond with SWAT, that's their job, two kids made pipe bombs. You don't mobilize a national guard and ATF army, complete with dozens of armored humvees.

 

[churchmouse]

You respond with SWAT, that's their job, two kids made pipe bombs. You don't mobilize a national guard and ATF army, complete with dozens of armored humvees.

HHhhhmmmmmmmm.....................

 

[kickbacked]

I watched an interview with the watertown police this morning. He was asked what kind of gun the guy had. He said he had no idea, that the fbi was under control of the scene right now. Makes me wonder if they will release a statement that he had an ak47 later

 

[Trigger Time]

Can you spell Patriot Act?

Yep.

T R E A S O N

 

[Trigger Time]

I watched an interview with the watertown police this morning. He was asked what kind of gun the guy had. He said he had no idea, that the fbi was under control of the scene right now. Makes me wonder if they will release a statement that he had an ak47 later

I had heard a report they took the murdered cops long gun and pistol. Don't know if its a good report or not.

 

[Trigger Time]

When police act like the military and look like the military then they are military. Just because their patches are different doesn't mean their tactics aren't unconstitutional. Paramilitary police is not within their constitutional duties and we need to elect law makers to effect a mandatory change on them immediately and rope them back in.

 

[Sharpie]

You respond with SWAT, that's their job, two kids made pipe bombs. You don't mobilize a national guard and ATF army, complete with dozens of armored humvees.

Is that seriously what this is to you? Two kids made pipe bombs? Really?

I have no problem with the government response. This was a terrorist attack on an international sporting event on American soil. I find it ironic that the same people calling for heads to roll because of an insufficient response to a terrorist attack in Benghazi are now complaining about too much of a response to a terrorist attack within our very borders.

A couple of kids with pipe bombs, indeed.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Is that seriously what this is to you? Two kids made pipe bombs? Really?

I have no problem with the government response. This was a terrorist attack on an international sporting event on American soil. I find it ironic that the same people calling for heads to roll because of an insufficient response to a terrorist attack in Benghazi are now complaining about too much of a response to a terrorist attack within our very borders.

A couple of kids with pipe bombs, indeed.

Are you serious or generating argument for the fun of it?

The problem with Benghazi is that our people were under attack for hours and not only was assistance not given, those who could have given assistance in time to save those lives were forbidden to do so. The problem is Boston is that the rights of the people were trampled on WHICH DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING contributing to the apprehension of the fugitive. The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other either in theory or practice.