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*Put on your tin hats warning*
Maybe this was a legit raid and Saber was actually breaking the law?
Quoted for truth. Not a single one of us knows any of the facts in the case.
*Put on your tin hats warning*
Maybe this was a legit raid and Saber was actually breaking the law?
I wonder what they were looking for? Can a warrant cover a search of everything on the premises including employee private property? I would not have consented to any search of my personal property (car and person).
*Put on your tin hats warning*
Maybe this was a legit raid and Saber was actually breaking the law?
Can a warrant cover a search of everything on the premises including employee private property? I would not have consented to any search of my personal property (car and person).
curraheeguns said:Yes, a search warrant can cover anything that you can cover in the probable cause. So if it was written for the entire SD grounds they would have listed outbuildings, cars, storage areas ect. Then you can search any area where the target of the search could possibly be hidden. So it the search was for say "illegal machine gun receivers" then any area or container big enough to contain said item is open for search.
But if the SW was for receivers, you would not have a right to look inside a 3"x3" box, and if you did and found something illegal it would probably be suppressed.
*Put on your tin hats warning*
Maybe this was a legit raid and Sabre was actually breaking the law?
And you would have probably been face down, cuffed, stuffed, and spending 24 hours in an uncomfortable jail cell, just for standing up for your Constitutional Rights. I have had to work with ATF thugs before, and that is my opinion of them, thugs. IMHO, the ATF (with a few other federal organizations) should be disbanded, and declared unconstitutional. I am really interested in why this raid was conducted.
As to searching all vehicles on premises....maybe to see if any "precision" parts had accidentally slipped into a lunch-box. Been there, seen it done. Pat
bin Obama knows he cannot get the laws passed to outlaw guns. He's using his BATF to instead harrass and intimidate the manufacturers.
*Put on your tin hats warning*
Maybe this was a legit raid and Sabre was actually breaking the law?
Quoted for truth. Not a single one of us knows any of the facts in the case.
Barry's number one priority is to destroy America!I can't be, that would put people out of work and we all know 'jobs' are Barry's #1 priority.
If you disarm the US military we would need the UN to fight our wars.If it is Obama, then he's only hurting himself by trying to take out a manufacturer who helps arm our military.
Exactly what "O" wants.If I were firearm manfucatures I'd raise the price of military firearms beyond anything reasoanble. If the government can play hardball so can everyone else.
All Caesars, despots, and tyrants began by controlling the military.Because the Pentagon is part of the same machine, and if they squeal loud enough then maybe, just maybe, F Troop will back off. Seems a reasonable tactic to me, since both groups feed at the same trough.
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Searched the employees and their vehicles, too...
Wonder how this'll shake out?
-J-
scary, when a group of unsupervised .gov thugs drive up to your home or facility with an open ended warrant and start confiscating... not much left to do at that point but say goodbye. Like a lot of police, they'll find something for all their troubles.
I plan on buying some Sabre gear to support them.
Yes, a search warrant can cover anything that you can cover in the probable cause. So if it was written for the entire SD grounds they would have listed outbuildings, cars, storage areas ect. Then you can search any area where the target of the search could possibly be hidden. So it the search was for say "illegal machine gun receivers" then any area or container big enough to contain said item is open for search.
But if the SW was for receivers, you would not have a right to look inside a 3"x3" box, and if you did and found something illegal it would probably be suppressed.
I have written dozens of search warrants, and I can tell you that no such thing as a "open ended" warrant would ever be approved. Search warrants list EXACTLY what the agency is looking for. Plus you have to have enough probable cause to believe the item being search for is there or you wouldn't have the warrant to start with. If you don't belive me about the detail of search warrants then go to the clerks office and read some. They are public information after you "clerk" it.
Barry's number one priority is to destroy America!