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    KG1

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    Safest person in the world from the Clinton Hit squad? Rudy Giuliani. Trump needs to put that guy out to pasture.
    I agree. Blow hard Fooliani has been mucking up the works and has been a major force behind all this political nonsense going on. He’s stirred up quite abit of trouble for his client. I posted previously about what I think of him at the present time.

    I think he was fine while representing his client’s interest concerning getting to the bottom of what lead to the Mueller probe but he ran off the rails with his incessant obsession with Biden’s guiltiness concerning alleged abuse of his position as VP which I believe pushed Trump into bringing up the subject as a side note with the Ukrainian leader.
     

    BugI02

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    Now is it really defending yourself, when you do it with lies and threats? The past few days the president has been on an EPIC twitter rant.... and honestly, some GOP embers seem to be getting a little fed up with him. The bad news for this administration just keeps coming.

    So, you're saying 'the walls are closing in'? :)
     

    BugI02

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    Sure, I would pick country over party but in the case of Trump or Hillary I think Trump was better for the country. Sounds like you have never liked a President we have had so your Independent status must be a platform of hating everyone.

    I don't think he/she's old enough to remember anything but what he/she's been told about most of those presidents, and you can tell what xe/ze's political roots are by the opinions its parroting. I'd venture to say it never actually saw a video on MTV or has recorded anything in analog. Likely it has only ever seen its avatar on youtube

    Kind of what I visualize for a bot, only a meat version. Taken over by programming that prompts it to take part in mass attacks on command
     

    BugI02

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    Seriously though, it’s that the fringes are gaining a larger voice. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. Both sides, try not being crazy, won’t be no crazy. No one is literally Hitler. Not every democrat is a ****ing socialist. People need to calm the **** down.

    But keep their powder dry
     

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    I seriously had no idea where that quote originated, and I'm in my 50s. I absolutely never would have thought it was a racial thing. Future generations will probably think it originated with Kenny Chesney. :)
    Same here. Other than the attack, I have little to no recollection of anything to do with Mr King.

    People really should not superimpose their own world view on others.
     

    KLB

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    I kinda figured that, but just clarified to be sure. I don't think anyone is expecting that he'd be removed.
    Then this is a farce. The impeachment process is not there to give the other party an opportunity for political theater. It should only be used if there is actually a chance to remove the President for whatever it is he supposedly did. That means it would be something that members of both parties would view as impeachable, not just the opposition.
     

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    I don’t think impeachment will actually happen. It seems like it’s more of a election tactic

    Although based on watching some new channels they aren’t giving the viewers (obviously) all the information and just making it seem like impeachment is a real possibility


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    Then this is a farce. The impeachment process is not there to give the other party an opportunity for political theater. It should only be used if there is actually a chance to remove the President for whatever it is he supposedly did. That means it would be something that members of both parties would view as impeachable, not just the opposition.

    But it does give them a chance to rile up their base in a strategy to take the senate. "Orange Hitler would be out of there if the senate were only controlled by Democratic robots instead of Republican ones." Any damage they do to Trump's re-election hopes are just gravy. If they hold the house and take the senate what Trump wants to do becomes largely irrelevant. Even if they don't quite take the senate, but narrow the Republican margin to where they actually have to consider what Romney thinks or wants it is still a disaster for the the country. The 'we're better than that' contingent will get ravished, but console themselves that they conducted themselves like a proper lady throughout
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Then this is a farce. The impeachment process is not there to give the other party an opportunity for political theater. It should only be used if there is actually a chance to remove the President for whatever it is he supposedly did. That means it would be something that members of both parties would view as impeachable, not just the opposition.

    No, not really. Speaking generally....If it's the right thing to do, then it's the right thing to do. Just because you aren't expecting a favorable outcome doesn't mean you don't attempt what you think is right. That's strength of character, and again, I'm speaking generally... to avoid someone asking about the "Democrats" and "strength of character."
     

    KJQ6945

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    No, not really. Speaking generally....If it's the right thing to do, then it's the right thing to do. Just because you aren't expecting a favorable outcome doesn't mean you don't attempt what you think is right. That's strength of character, and again, I'm speaking generally... to avoid someone asking about the "Democrats" and "strength of character."
    Good disclaimer. :lmfao:
     

    jamil

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    No, not really. Speaking generally....If it's the right thing to do, then it's the right thing to do. Just because you aren't expecting a favorable outcome doesn't mean you don't attempt what you think is right. That's strength of character, and again, I'm speaking generally... to avoid someone asking about the "Democrats" and "strength of character."
    If it IS the right thing to do, then perhaps more people would agree across a wider spectrum of political belief. If “right” is really right, then it’s right a lot more objectively than what we’re seeing. Opinion is split right down the middle. Around 42% say impeach. They’re all pretty much on the left. 42% say no. They’re mostly on the right. And the rest don’t have an opinion or don’t know.

    If the only people who think it is the right thing to do, are a portion of particular partisans, isn’t it more likely that rather than being or standing up for “right”, they’re at least as full of partisan **** as the other? This smells a lot more like, rather than standing bravely with the #resistance and standing up for rightness, Pelosi a politician trying to outmaneuver the opposing side. It’s a battle for winning ideology, and a battle for SCOTUS.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    If it IS the right thing to do, then perhaps more people would agree across a wider spectrum of political belief. If “right” is really right, then it’s right a lot more objectively than what we’re seeing. Opinion is split right down the middle. Around 42% say impeach. They’re all pretty much on the left. 42% say no. They’re mostly on the right. And the rest don’t have an opinion or don’t know.

    If the only people who think it is the right thing to do, are a portion of particular partisans, isn’t it more likely that rather than being or standing up for “right”, they’re at least as full of partisan **** as the other? This smells a lot more like, rather than standing bravely with the #resistance and standing up for rightness, Pelosi a politician trying to outmaneuver the opposing side. It’s a battle for winning ideology, and a battle for SCOTUS.

    "Right" has always been subjective.
     

    KG1

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    No, not really. Speaking generally....If it's the right thing to do, then it's the right thing to do. Just because you aren't expecting a favorable outcome doesn't mean you don't attempt what you think is right. That's strength of character, and again, I'm speaking generally... to avoid someone asking about the "Democrats" and "strength of character."
    Don't you think there is just a smidgen of political strategery to this exercise? I happen to think it's more political than strength of character on the part of the Democrats simply by the way they've been conducting themselves ever since Trump took office.
     

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    Maybe we'll find out what "right" is, a little over a year from now. In terms of a farce, it really is. Even the Pelosi doesn't have the balls to send this to the Senate, where anything and everything is apt to be looked into. I'm guessing there's a whole list of Dems and other 'players' who will fight tooth and nail to keep this from going to the Senate. Unless they're really so demented that they think they can pull it off without burning down their own house. Given the evidence of the last 3 years, that is always a possibility.

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    Don't you think there is just a smidgen of political strategery to this exercise? I happen to think it's more political than strength of character on the part of the Democrats simply by the way they've been conducting themselves ever since Trump took office.

    Well, so much for that. Yes there's political strategy to the exercise. But if impeachment is a political mechanism, how can it not be. And even if it ls, you can still believe you are doing the right thing.
     

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    Maybe we'll find out what "right" is, a little over a year from now. In terms of a farce, it really is. Even the Pelosi doesn't have the balls to send this to the Senate, where anything and everything is apt to be looked into. I'm guessing there's a whole list of Dems and other 'players' who will fight tooth and nail to keep this from going to the Senate. Unless they're really so demented that they think they can pull it off without burning down their own house. Given the evidence of the last 3 years, that is always a possibility.

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    I think this is urban legend. At this point, I don't think even the immortal Nancy Pelosi can stop impeachment. Too many shoes dropping each day, and Democrat constituents are expecting it. If they don't follow through, I'd expect that many of them will be primaried.
     

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    "Right" has always been subjective.

    Not withstanding that there is absolute “right”, if you believe it’s always subjective, you admire people who stand up against other people who also think they’re right? This is a reason why activism is retarded.
     
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