OutdoorDad
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Are you saying if you aren't a trump loving Republican you're automatically a liberal?
It seems that way.
For reference, Kalashnikov was a Communist. And they built a crap ton of his design.
Are you saying if you aren't a trump loving Republican you're automatically a liberal?
Not I, just that many "common sense" gun controllers are acting differently right now. Most of those interviewed admitted they were libs and even feared their friends might find out they were interested in guns to protect their families.
Although if you do not like the policies of Trump, not the man, then you likely are a liberal...
I need a list of all politicians who have never voted for any gun control laws as defined by all the posters in this thread so I can vote by the INGO voting guide. If they have ever voted for any gun control law then I can never vote for them.
That is what I have learned from this thread.
It strikes me there a lot of guys here with one or two issues that they define as their party's.
That's their right and that's fine.
I view politics less as a moral crusade or a battle to determine who's a real American and more as a hard, cold, mathematical game ... a fight for resources, priorities.
Frankly I think US national politics have degraded into little more or holding onto or gaining incumbency and is now breaking down into cult- or tribe-like behavior as a result. I know I never foresaw the day when the GOP would go pro-deficit/debt, protectionist and isolationist.
Again, that's all fine and not mine to dictate. I'm one guy with a vote in the spring and a vote in the fall, same exact "clout" or lack thereof as anyone who's not a big donor. And I'm sure as hell far in the minority here.
But the truth is I've voted for plenty of Republicans in my lifetime -- Sen. Peter Fitzgerald, George HW Bush and Bob Dole come to mind -- and might again if a centrist one ever emerges.
And this: I'd tend to agree with Dabird, my having grown up in a rural-ish area in a blue state where there's lots of mainstream Dems who have never favored gun control and still don't. It's become one of two or three great wedge issues used by factions and strategists to whip up fervor.
So if someone wants to portray me and all Dems as itching to kick in doors, seize guns and slice out babies ... not a heck of a lot I can do about it. I think it's utter bull, but if it works for you, have at it.
There were Jews that actually voted for Hitler and reasoned that he was just all talk and would never do anything to them. Liberals Democrats/liberal Republicans that vote for politicians that want to limit freedom are basically doing the same thing. Do we humans ever learn from history? No we do not. That's why we continue to repeat it over, and over again.
And a thing that is unlikely to ever happen. Most facets of the economic ideologies of the left involve the taking of the labor and/or the fruits thereof from those who produce it and giving it to those who did not, often doing so openly, at scale and, to extremes.
Remember, many hold "from each according to his ability to each according to his need" as a gold standard toward which we should all march, whether it is behind or in front of a bayonet.
Supporting the clear natural right and means of self defense and, therefore, potential resistance, tends to be counterproductive to such ends.
I’m pretty liberal when it comes to most things. Also pro 2A. Prior to this thread I thought that was possible. I guess I need to find a buyback program and get rid of all my guns now.
Who can a dem gun owner vote for in 2020? Which dem running is pro 2A?
Still no answers?
So why not have a new political party that actually defends the constitution and does not bend to big government? Who would these people be? All I can think of died within 70 years of the declaration of independence.