Evansville Sued for Violating Gun Owner's Rights

[rmabrey]

I've been away. Has bryan "sell out gun owners for a buck" ciyou stopped by the clarify his comments

 

[Hoosierdood]

I've been away. Has bryan "sell out gun owners for a buck" ciyou stopped by the clarify his comments

No, he hasn't. ATM left an open letter to him in his Site Advertiser subforum, and he hasn't commented on it yet. https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...w_bryan_ciyou/167767-oc_vs_cc_preference.html

I believe ATM also sent a pm and email. Still waiting to see if he will respond or not.

 

[jeremy]

No, he hasn't. ATM left an open letter to him in his Site Advertiser subforum, and he hasn't commented on it yet. https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...w_bryan_ciyou/167767-oc_vs_cc_preference.html

I believe ATM also sent a pm and email. Still waiting to see if he will respond or not.

Would you care to place a Wager on whether he will or not...

I would be willing to wager that he will not...
With a side bet on if he does it will be noncommittal...

 

[GuyRelford]

http://www.news25.us/story/15716436/...-gun-ordinance

 

[eldirector]

+1 for everyone but Wendy.

She gets a

Thanks for sharing TFT!

 

[Hoosierdood]

How long does the city's attorney have to respond to the lawsuit, or have they already responded?

 

[GuyRelford]

How long does the city's attorney have to respond to the lawsuit, or have they already responded?

Mid-November.

 

[pirate]

Thanks for the update!

 

[youngda9]

From the article TFT posted:

"I'm voting against it in principle," said councilwoman Wendy Bredhold. Bredhold says local law enforcement officers should have the power to decide where people take firearms, for people's safety.
"We all know what could happen and we know what the risks are and I just think we have the right to regulate in any way we chose locally and not have that enforced at the state level," said Bredhold.

I can't believe such people can hold public office.

 

[Mr. Habib]

From the article TFT posted:
I can't believe such people can hold public office.

I can't believe that they can have a bowel movement on their own.

 

[Stschil]

I can't believe that they can have a bowel movement on their own.

Oh that's easy for them, they just open their mouths and out comes the

 

[Bunnykid68]

From the article TFT posted:
I can't believe such people can hold public office.

Wendy is gone 01-01-12, she is not running for re-election.

 

[Effingham]

Wendy is gone 01-01-12, she is not running for re-election.

Good news, then.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Did you see how Mr. Friend hid in ignorance of the law?

If I did cases down there I'd have that on a DVD for the prosecutor in every single case.

Just you try that! Oh, gee, I didn't know I couldn't carry a gun here.

 

[DarkRose]

Here's another excerpt that got me:

"EVANSVILLE - In Indiana, a city cannot have an ordinance that overrides state law. The Evansville rule stated local authorities could determine where a person could not carry a weapon. But in July, Indiana legislators decided the only place people could not carry a weapon, is buildings that hold courtrooms. "

Do they even research what they print? Especially when they may be the only source of "education" some people have? How about listing the other places, such as primary and secondary schools, daycares, group homes, mental health facilities, and iirc, hospitals housing inmates that have a LEO on duty 24 hours a day....

 

[Concerned Citizen]

Just got an update from the Brownsburg Assistant Town Manager, and they have a new ordinance going before the town council to bring them in compliance with the law:

Ordinance # 2011
Brownsburg, Indiana
October __, 2011

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 37.16 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO DEADLY WEAPONS ​

WHEREAS, the Town of Brownsburg, Indiana through the Town Council desires to amend and update its Ordinances relating to the carrying of deadly weapons in public buildings. ​

BE IT ORDAINED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF BROWNSBURG, INDIANA AS FOLLOWS: ​

Section I. Title III, Chapter 37, Section 37.16, of the Brownsburg Town Code is hereby amended as follows: ​

§ 37.16 DEADLY WEAPONS PROHIBITED.​

Except as provided for in Section 37.17, a person shall not:
(1) Possess a deadly weapon on or about his person in any building that contains a courtroom of a Circuit, Superior, Town, or Small Claims Court; or
(2) Intentionally display a deadly weapon at any public meeting.
Section II. All prior Ordinances or parts thereof inconsistent with any provision of this Ordinance are hereby repealed.

Section III. This Ordinance is hereby passed by the Town Council for the Town of Brownsburg, Indiana this _____ day of October, 2011.






____________________________
Matthew S. Bowles, President
ATTEST:

____________________________
Jeanette M. Brickler
Clerk-Treasurer






I think it's great, but I think I need to ask clarification of what constitutes a "Public Meeting". Is it a town council meeting, or is it any gathering of people to discuss something in public?? "any public meeting" could have a very broad interpretation.

 

[E'villeGunner]

So does carrying a firearm on your hip constitute an "intentional display of said firearm?

 

[Indy317]

+1 for everyone but Wendy.

She gets a

From her city profile webpage:
Wendy is the stepdaughter of former County Councilman and State Representative Phil Hoy, but she cut her political teeth in the 2008 election, knocking on doors for Obama for America and the Weinzapfel Team. She is a member of the Democratic Women’s Caucus and a founding member of Evansville for Change, the group that helped turn Indiana blue in 2008.

Once again another supporter of "majority wins" only when the majority happens to be on their side. Typical.

 

[melensdad]

So does carrying a firearm on your hip constitute an "intentional display of said firearm?

Exactly my question too.

Based on that wording it seems like the city has outlawed "open carry" of firearms.

I have to ask, what if you are openly carrying your firearm but wear a coat/cover garment over your gun and a wind blows your cover garment, thereby exposing your gun. Is that in violation of the law? If not then how about a thin T-shirt pulled down over your holster so that the gun prints very visibly? Is that intentional display?

Last week a lady came into one of my stores, she was carrying what appeared to be a S&W M&P under her T-shirt in an OWB holster. Anyone and everyone who saw her back saw that gun, but the gun was never exposed. Still it made a statement no different than if she had been wearing it on her hip in loud & proud fashion!

 

[BBSparkle]

Exactly my question too.
Anyone and everyone who saw her back saw that gun, but the gun was never exposed. Still it made a statement no different than if she had been wearing it on her hip in loud & proud fashion!

No, all the straight guys were probably too busy noticing the rest of her backside.