You might not remember the indecent I had at Community Hospital last year where two moon-lighting LEO's stopped me and asked for my concealed carry license (then argued that it was supposed to be concealed), apparently much of the staff knows me for this reason.
I went to pick my wife up from surgery and parked in the front valet area. The valet asked me to move forward and then added, 'You can't carry that in.", while pointing to my crotch. Okay, not my crotch, my LC9 in the inside-waistband holster. I told him there was no reason I couldn't and pointed out the 'NO CONCEALED WEAPONS' sign on the door. He said he didn't want to get into trouble and would have security come talk to me.
I move the car up and wait for security to show up. Paul (no last name) informs me that I can't carry into the hospital. Again, I point out the stickers on the door and add that I haven't seen anything that disallowed me to carry there and then I mentioned the event from last year. He told me he was aware of the event from last year and knew who I was. I asked him why I wasn't asked to lock the weapon up then or asked to leave if it was against policy. I can't remember his exact reply but the jest is he didn't know and it didn't matter, that I needed to either leave it in the car or lock it up in his office.
Since I didn't want to leave my poor wife in the waiting room I relent and agree to lock it in the office. I asked him more than once to quote or produce the hospital rule/ordinance against carry there and he said he didn't know and (basically) didn't care, at least that I what I got out of it. He did ask me why I felt I needed to carry (I assumed in the hospital) so I told him my reasons (which I'm sure many share with all the mass-shootings and general evil in the news). He asked if I had ever heard of a shooting at this hospital. I said, "No, but I had never heard of anyone blowing up a marathon so that doesn't matter." I asked him why he carries and he said because it is his job, which lead me to ask if he would carry on this job if not required to. He said he wouldn't, not sure why, but that is the answer I got.
He tells me about getting his lifetime LTCH and how he conceals his and asks why don't I do that (never mind the entrance to the hospital says 'NO CONCEALED WEAPONS') so I tell him that makes it harder to get to (which he scoffs at) and I feel the only way to change public perception of firearms is by showing them that not everyone that has a gun is evil.
After some more bickering he lets on that he is a member here (hopefully he'll show up and offer his input, I did tell him there would be a post). He offers my 2-year-old a sucker and I depart to get my wife from post-op recovery.
Now, from my indecent last year I gathered that certain hospitals couldn't make rules against firearms. I know that state law says you can't carrying into a LEO staffed secure facility but as far as I know, that is the only state law against carry into hospitals. I don't know what IC Community operates under, but I thought it was the one that didn't allow them to ban firearms. Otherwise, wouldn't they just remove the sticker from the door or put one outright banning them, like St. John's?
He gave me the number to the security supervisor, but I don't expect anything from that since he blew me off last year and was also unable to produce the rule/code that would prevent me from carrying on the property. It sounds to me like they just want to keep the power to themselves and have already made up their mind not to like me and to continue harassing me. I'll try calling him again, but I expect to get the same treatment you get from any 'boys' club. I even sent an email to 'customer service' about the indecent last year and never got a reply. I guess I'll have to try to contact the hospital administrator.
I went to pick my wife up from surgery and parked in the front valet area. The valet asked me to move forward and then added, 'You can't carry that in.", while pointing to my crotch. Okay, not my crotch, my LC9 in the inside-waistband holster. I told him there was no reason I couldn't and pointed out the 'NO CONCEALED WEAPONS' sign on the door. He said he didn't want to get into trouble and would have security come talk to me.
I move the car up and wait for security to show up. Paul (no last name) informs me that I can't carry into the hospital. Again, I point out the stickers on the door and add that I haven't seen anything that disallowed me to carry there and then I mentioned the event from last year. He told me he was aware of the event from last year and knew who I was. I asked him why I wasn't asked to lock the weapon up then or asked to leave if it was against policy. I can't remember his exact reply but the jest is he didn't know and it didn't matter, that I needed to either leave it in the car or lock it up in his office.
Since I didn't want to leave my poor wife in the waiting room I relent and agree to lock it in the office. I asked him more than once to quote or produce the hospital rule/ordinance against carry there and he said he didn't know and (basically) didn't care, at least that I what I got out of it. He did ask me why I felt I needed to carry (I assumed in the hospital) so I told him my reasons (which I'm sure many share with all the mass-shootings and general evil in the news). He asked if I had ever heard of a shooting at this hospital. I said, "No, but I had never heard of anyone blowing up a marathon so that doesn't matter." I asked him why he carries and he said because it is his job, which lead me to ask if he would carry on this job if not required to. He said he wouldn't, not sure why, but that is the answer I got.
He tells me about getting his lifetime LTCH and how he conceals his and asks why don't I do that (never mind the entrance to the hospital says 'NO CONCEALED WEAPONS') so I tell him that makes it harder to get to (which he scoffs at) and I feel the only way to change public perception of firearms is by showing them that not everyone that has a gun is evil.
After some more bickering he lets on that he is a member here (hopefully he'll show up and offer his input, I did tell him there would be a post). He offers my 2-year-old a sucker and I depart to get my wife from post-op recovery.
Now, from my indecent last year I gathered that certain hospitals couldn't make rules against firearms. I know that state law says you can't carrying into a LEO staffed secure facility but as far as I know, that is the only state law against carry into hospitals. I don't know what IC Community operates under, but I thought it was the one that didn't allow them to ban firearms. Otherwise, wouldn't they just remove the sticker from the door or put one outright banning them, like St. John's?
He gave me the number to the security supervisor, but I don't expect anything from that since he blew me off last year and was also unable to produce the rule/code that would prevent me from carrying on the property. It sounds to me like they just want to keep the power to themselves and have already made up their mind not to like me and to continue harassing me. I'll try calling him again, but I expect to get the same treatment you get from any 'boys' club. I even sent an email to 'customer service' about the indecent last year and never got a reply. I guess I'll have to try to contact the hospital administrator.
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