Does not add up... Dorner

[qwerty]

pushed means the same thing...

So North Korea was shoved back to the 38th parallel?

 

[Liberty1911]

Why was my thread closed.

 

[sepe]

Why was my thread closed.

A small group doesn't know how to play nice with each other when they don't agree.

 

[jbombelli]

1. We have a man who openly declared his intent to kill a number of people. Regardless of whether or not his claims were true, this is not acceptable.

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A lot of people have declared that exact intent if/when certain things come to pass.

Does the phrase ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ring a bell?

Are the people who say ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, being fully cognizant of what it means to say such, wrong in your opinion? Because I've said it myself, and mean it with 100% conviction, from the bottom of my heart.

 

[IndyDave1776]

A lot of people have declared that exact intent if/when certain things come to pass.

Does the phrase ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ring a bell?

Are the people who say ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, being fully cognizant of what it means to say such, wrong in your opinion? Because I've said it myself, and mean it with 100% conviction, from the bottom of my heart.

I was making a distinction that may not be as clear as I had intended, specifically that of defending one's self against armed hostility and hunting down named persons and/or their loved ones as personal revenge rather than defending one's self, family, and the republic.

 

[rambone]

"Burn it down"



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc[/ame]

 

[Scarecrow]

Wow

 

[Lycurgus]

read the feed at 2:45 as the LEO is claiming no body has been found.

[ame]http://youtu.be/FAdNI63ak0o[/ame]

 

[Kutnupe14]

Just out of curiosity, why would it be a problem if the police set a cabin on fire in which a person inside was employing deadly force against them? How is a shooting a "fire" arrow at a wooden building and the guy dying from burning up, any different that him catching a .308 round in the head?

 

[jath08]

Just out of curiosity, why would it be a problem if the police set a cabin on fire in which a person inside was employing deadly force against them? How is a shooting a "fire" arrow at a wooden building and the guy dying from burning up, any different that him catching a .308 round in the head?

Same end results just ones alot quicker.This
or this

 

[RabbleRouser]

c'mon did anybody seriously think this guy was gonna make it to trial? in their zeal to kill this heavy set black man they shot 2 asian women and a skinny white guy. guilty until proven dead

 

[IndyDave1776]

Just out of curiosity, why would it be a problem if the police set a cabin on fire in which a person inside was employing deadly force against them? How is a shooting a "fire" arrow at a wooden building and the guy dying from burning up, any different that him catching a .308 round in the head?

So far as I can tell, absolutely none. It is apparent that there was no intent whatsoever to bring him in alive. The method of extermination is irrelevant.

Once again, I feel no particular sympathy for Dorner. My concern is that if summary execution is allowed to come into style, it can be visited on anyone who crosses the police. Many among us have accepted it with drone strikes against 'terrorists' so labeled without any burden of proof, due process, or legal recourse. The same people are accepting a more direct and personal form of extrajudicial execution with Dorner, here in the US, for what is still common crime even if it has uncommon overtones to it. I am not given to believe that Dorner would have peacefully surrendered at any point, but then again, the behavior of the police throughout the hunt has indicated that it was intended from the beginning to be an execution with apprehension not even contemplated, as demonstrated by opening fire on innocents with no warning or reasonable attempt to ascertain identity of those on the receiving end.

Back to your original question, as I see it dead is dead regardless of specific method.

 

[RabbleRouser]

I AM THE LAW!!

 

[YoungGunLover]

As of right now, no body has been found in the cabin. Authorities say it is too hot to go near get and that they have not been able to do an in depth search of the cabin. No one knows yet why there was a confusion with all the media stations reporting they found a body.

 

[rgrimm01]

Why was my thread closed.

I had worked on a post to address a couple of statements that had the feel of trolling. I put quite a bit of thought and deliberation into it, then submitted. The screen then informs me that the thread had been closed, 35 minutes earlier...

First I gave it an "Oh man" then chuckled. Guess I am going to have to get that word/min speed up to 120. That is 2 in 2 days...

 

[sepe]

As of right now, no body has been found in the cabin. Authorities say it is too hot to go near get and that they have not been able to do an in depth search of the cabin. No one knows yet why there was a confusion with all the media stations reporting they found a body.

I believe it was the Chief of Riverside (or a Riverside officer) that came out saying the body was identified as Dorner. I think the media confusion in the reporting is partly coming from the Keystone Cops.

 

[fireblade]

Just out of curiosity, why would it be a problem if the police set a cabin on fire in which a person inside was employing deadly force against them? How is a shooting a "fire" arrow at a wooden building and the guy dying from burning up, any different that him catching a .308 round in the head?

the good guys and bad guys been doing this from the 1700 - now ....its called burn them out ..but a lot of the times it leads to innocent people getting burned alive has happen then and now like all the children in waco........and gives the image of the police being judge jury and executioner with given no option to surrender .......

but your right dead.......is dead....... bullet ..... fire ...water ...hanging

 

[slowG]

It is quite difficult to bring someone in that is actively shooting at you.

When they say push back it doesn't mean literally by their hands. He tried his luck back in the house instead of being shot.

 

[fireblade]

i hope they got the nutt ......but with all the actions by LAPD to the public (shootings etc.) has given more mistrust then ever .....

i agree push back was poor term to use ...(subject went back in cabin do to gun fire from police engaging subject)......is a term that applys

 

[GREEN607]

How is a shooting a "fire" arrow at a wooden building and the guy dying from burning up, any different that him catching a .308 round in the head?

Well,

1. It hurts a bit longer, if you're 'him'.

2. You can't roast marshmallows over a .308 wound.