Coronovirus IV

[jamil]

I don't of many people who thinks that anyone has a "good handle on it".

I know a lot of people who thinks the CDC has a good handle on it.

 

[Ingomike]

This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid
That’s 9,210 deaths
The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age”https://t.co/WEZxsfcnhWpic.twitter.com/e2jPEgit1o





https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/

 

[churchmouse]

This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid
That’s 9,210 deaths
The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age”https://t.co/WEZxsfcnhWpic.twitter.com/e2jPEgit1o





https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/

Well would you look at this

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So, if someone has COVID and develops pneumonia or ARDS, then that's not COVID? It can only be a COVID death if they DON'T have either pneumonia or ARDS... are you really saying what it sounds like your saying? That a death only counts as COVID (a respiratory disease) if it isn't accompanied by respiratory diseases like pneumonia and ARDS?

If that's the case, hardly anyone dies from the flu... like virtually no one... there is just randomly a bunch of pneumonia deaths, of people with the flu, during flu season, but that has nothing to do with the flu, because they also developed pneumonia.

 

[churchmouse]

So, if someone has COVID and develops pneumonia or ARDS, then that's not COVID? It can only be a COVID death if they DON'T have either pneumonia or ARDS... are you really saying what it sounds like your saying? That a death only counts as COVID (a respiratory disease) if it isn't accompanied by respiratory diseases like pneumonia and ARDS?

If that's the case, hardly anyone dies from the flu... like virtually no one... there is just randomly a bunch of pneumonia deaths, of people with the flu, during flu season, but that has nothing to do with the flu, because they also developed pneumonia.

No that is not what he is saying.

 

[jamil]

Well would you look at this

You need to look at that. At the CDC’s website. It’s a tweet that references an article that references a CDC page. I don’t think it’s saying what they think it’s saying.

But. I’ll say this. If you have covid, and you have the flu at the same time, and you’re fat, and you have other respiratory illnesses, and you have diabetes, and you’re over 75, and you’re conscious, probably time to say goodby to your friends and family. Y’ain’t gonna make it.

 

[ghitch75]

This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid
That’s 9,210 deaths
The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age”https://t.co/WEZxsfcnhWpic.twitter.com/e2jPEgit1o





https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/

is this all true?......if so a bunch of people have a lot of explaining to do....

 

[chipbennett]

So, if someone has COVID and develops pneumonia or ARDS, then that's not COVID? It can only be a COVID death if they DON'T have either pneumonia or ARDS... are you really saying what it sounds like your saying? That a death only counts as COVID (a respiratory disease) if it isn't accompanied by respiratory diseases like pneumonia and ARDS?

If that's the case, hardly anyone dies from the flu... like virtually no one... there is just randomly a bunch of pneumonia deaths, of people with the flu, during flu season, but that has nothing to do with the flu, because they also developed pneumonia.

Here is where a retrospective, objective analysis of excess mortality might be beneficial. The problem is, I don't trust much of anyone to perform that objective analysis.

As for flu deaths: hasn't it already been established that they are, more or less, only ever "estimated", based on such factors as pneumonia deaths in given age groups in a given year? (Also, that's another complicating factor for excess mortality analysis.)

 

[Ingomike]

So, if someone has COVID and develops pneumonia or ARDS, then that's not COVID? It can only be a COVID death if they DON'T have either pneumonia or ARDS... are you really saying what it sounds like your saying? That a death only counts as COVID (a respiratory disease) if it isn't accompanied by respiratory diseases like pneumonia and ARDS?

If that's the case, hardly anyone dies from the flu... like virtually no one... there is just randomly a bunch of pneumonia deaths, of people with the flu, during flu season, but that has nothing to do with the flu, because they also developed pneumonia.

In fact just the opposite. It is media BS and fearmongering that healthy people are dropping like flies that this is showing not to be true.

 

[Ingomike]

You need to look at that. At the CDC’s website. It’s a tweet that references an article that references a CDC page. I don’t think it’s saying what they think it’s saying.

But. I’ll say this. If you have covid, and you have the flu at the same time, and you’re fat, and you have other respiratory illnesses, and you have diabetes, and you’re over 75, and you’re conscious, probably time to say goodby to your friends and family. Y’ain’t gonna make it.

The CDC is never going to say that, but they do provide stats that others can calculate and tell you the CDC numbers say this...

 

[Ingomike]

Here is where a retrospective, objective analysis of excess mortality might be beneficial. The problem is, I don't trust much of anyone to perform that objective analysis.

As for flu deaths: hasn't it already been established that they are, more or less, only ever "estimated", based on such factors as pneumonia deaths in given age groups in a given year? (Also, that's another complicating factor for excess mortality analysis.)

One of my disappointments in the system was learning how they count flu deaths, but seeing a precise number of deaths on their page. In itself an implication the number is more accurate than it is.

 

[JCSR]

2020 not looking that bad......

 

[terrehautian]

What is that a table of?

 

[JCSR]

What is that a table of?

Total deaths in the U.S.

 

[Ingomike]

2020 not looking that bad......
View attachment 90600

Some fascinating info in there. The three best years percentage wise were the Trump economic heyday for three years. No wonder the left needed to implode the country...

 

[Ingomike]

From the NYT of all potential sources.

According to The New York Times, potentially 90 percent of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 have such insignificant amounts of the virus present in their bodies that such individuals do not need to isolate nor are they candidates for contact tracing. Leading public health experts are now concerned that overtesting is responsible for misdiagnosing a huge number of people with harmless amounts of the virus in their systems.


"Most of these people are not likely to be contagious, and identifying them may contribute to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time," warns The Times.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/brons...ovid-tests-should-have-been-negative-n2575305

 

[Alpo]

Some fascinating info in there. The three best years percentage wise were the Trump economic heyday for three years. No wonder the left needed to implode the country...

If he's responsible for wonderful health in America, he's then also responsible for the virus.

You don't really want to go there.

This thread has begun to reach a new intellectual low. Gateway pundit for God's sake?!!!!!

 

[JCSR]

​The greatest hoax in world history​

 

[bobzilla]

2020 not looking that bad......

I would like to find the actual link to that information. The last time I checked the cdc wasn’t reporting total deaths past 2018.

 

[Ingomike]

If he's responsible for wonderful health in America, he's then also responsible for the virus.

You don't really want to go there.

This thread has begun to reach a new intellectual low. Gateway pundit for God's sake?!!!!!

One of the few reporting the what is really going on. I learned of the situations more than 2 years ago that are just now resulting in pleas and charges now.

As for the comments on the responsibility of Trump, it was his economic plans I commented on, not the virus in any way. There is a well documented body of research the indicates a correlation to death and unemployment so it stands to reason that
Lower death rates follow low unemployment...