Coronavirus II

[KG1]

Supposedly NYC has treated a number of infected patients with HDC. I want to see some tangible results.

I’ve heard nothing yet about it’s efficacy in that particular trial. Until then I’ll take anything else posted about the therapy with a dose of skepticism.

 

[nonobaddog]

They must have thousands of people now with immunity. Have they tried antibody transfusion yet?

 

[Trigger Time]

They must have thousands of people now with immunity. Have they tried antibody transfusion yet?

It's one of the treatments they are also testing

 

[nonobaddog]

I would volunteer for the test. In fact I'll call about that tomorrow.

 

[Dead Duck]

Thanks. Nobody should be using 1 to 3.

I agree.
It's Friday. It should be a lot stronger than that.

 

[CampingJosh]

They must have thousands of people now with immunity. Have they tried antibody transfusion yet?

I heard rumor of it being tried in Italy, but I haven't heard any results.

 

[smokingman]

If you're referring to your link, it says 1 oz (30ml) of household bleach to 2 gal (7.5 liters) of water. That's a one to 256 dilution, not 1 to 3. I have other information that recommends 1 to 32 bleach to water for all disinfecting. Don't want to be pedantic, but 1 to 3 is strong enough to do some harm to people and equipment. Could you clarify whether you were referring to something other than the 3M link in the above post

Correction: IBT link about 3M equipment

One third of a cup to one gallon of water. Not sure why you saw that as 1 to 3,but that is not what I posted.
I posted the exact same dilution as the CDC says.


[FONT=&quot]5 tablespoons (1/3rd cup) bleach per gallon of water
[/FONT]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/disinfecting-your-home.html

 

[smokingman]

Perdue Farms chicken plant workers walk out. I tried to find the USDA plant number so we could see the size of the impact.
I did not find it,so I am unsure what percentage 50 workers is of the facility.
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/0...t-workers-walk-out-over-coronavirus-concerns/
Another poultry plant (Alabama) Workers are wanting it shut down due to so many testing positive at the plant(only 6 out of 1200 workers that I could verify).

https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/W...-closed-amid-COVID-19-pandemic-569322911.html
No matter the percentage workers walking out of food processing facilities is and could become a large problem.

Beef industry view on current prices and future demand declines.Pointing out beef is more sensative when consumer employment is down.
Expects a loss of over 9 billion compared to 2019,for 2020.
https://www.hpj.com/latzke/coronavi...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share


Plant nurseries are shutting down,and throwing away plants(article if about UK not US but we have issues as well).
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...troyed-nurseries-garden-centres-a9439071.html


Minnesota nurseries.
https://www.swnewsmedia.com/chanhas...cle_bba94564-46f0-556c-ae6b-e303ea800ca8.html

Break down of the nation by state for green houses and nurseries.
https://www.gardencentermag.com/article/greenhouses-nurseries-garden-centers-essential-coronavirus/



https://www.profoodworld.com/covid-...f-of-processors-have-supply-chain-disruptions
4/3/2020
[FONT=&amp]According to ProFood World’s most recent reader poll, nearly half or 48% of respondents(food processors) are currently experiencing supply chain disruption for goods such as equipment, packaging materials, ingredients, and other plant supplies. Several cited the disruption of goods from Asia and inability to obtain masks and hand sanitizer for plant workers. Here is a sample of responses received this week concerning the supply chain disruption.[/FONT]

• Ingredients are harder to get; [there are] less days available to get trucks to deliver.
• Some spare parts suppliers have been listed as non-essential and have shut down.
• Lead times for packaging supplies have been extended. High demand for packaging needs.
• Getting four-week delay for packaging.
• Slow down on servo motors, drives, and ribbon cables from China.
• Our suppliers are overwhelmed by increased demand and [are] limiting our ability to purchase more.
• A large number of our materials and packaging are purchased from India and China. Luckily, we had multiple months of supply stateside prior to the major disruption. Additionally, we are now seeing disruption stateside with shipments of some materials.

[FONT=&amp]Optimism prevails

JBS is the largest beef processor in the USA. The plant is still operating,but production is down.
[/FONT]https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/31/jbs-meat-plant-greeley-colorado-coronavirus/
[FONT=&amp]Several hundred workers at the JBS USA meat processing plant in Greeley called off work Monday as a handful of cases of the novel coronavirus were confirmed among employees.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]About 500 people called off in the morning and another 400 did not go to work in the evening, said Kim Cordova, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 7[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]“I don’t believe it was a concerted effort by the workers to stage a protest,” she said. “I absolutely believe somebody may have exposed them, or they’re afraid, or maybe folks are sick. I don’t want to speculate until we get the information.


”[/FONT]https://www.ontariofarmer.com/livestock/quebec-processor-shutdown-has-ripple-effect
[FONT=&amp]The temporary shutdown of the Olymel pork processing plant at Yamachiche has had a ripple effect across Eastern Canada.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]The plant, which had doubled slaughter capacity last May, was slaughtering 22,000 pigs per week at the time of closure. It was closed after nine of its employees tested positive for COVID-19.


I am going to make this clear. I do not want everyone to panic. I posted the above information for one reason. So you could prepare.
Supply issues will continue. We are going through a period none of us have lived through before. Events unfold rapidly.
Things that where not an issue yesterday,can become an issue today or in the near future.

Things are not going back to normal anytime soon,and will likely get worse.

Do you have enough food,a basic part of our lives for yourself and those you love if supply issues become more pronounced?

Can you plant a garden?

Prepare.

Be well,be safe,you are loved.

It is not just me sounding the alarm. The United Nations is as well.
[/FONT]https://thehill.com/policy/internat...of-global-food-shortage-caused-by-coronavirus
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) warned of the impact of the COVID-19 virus on the global food supply chain in a notice on their website writing: “We risk a looming food crisis unless measures are taken fast to protect the most vulnerable, keep global food supply chains alive and mitigate the pandemic’s impacts across the food system.”

 

[smokingman]

Great video from yesterday.
[video=youtube;niyQ4yg1_FQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niyQ4yg1_FQ[/video]

 

[ditcherman]

Perdue Farms chicken plant workers walk out. I tried to find the USDA plant number so we could see the size of the impact.
I did not find it,so I am unsure what percentage 50 workers is of the facility.
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2020/0...t-workers-walk-out-over-coronavirus-concerns/
Another poultry plant (Alabama) Workers are wanting it shut down due to so many testing positive at the plant(only 6 out of 1200 workers that I could verify).

https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/W...-closed-amid-COVID-19-pandemic-569322911.html
No matter the percentage workers walking out of food processing facilities is and could become a large problem.

Beef industry view on current prices and future demand declines.Pointing out beef is more sensative when consumer employment is down.
Expects a loss of over 9 billion compared to 2019,for 2020.
https://www.hpj.com/latzke/coronavi...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share


Plant nurseries are shutting down,and throwing away plants(article if about UK not US but we have issues as well).
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...troyed-nurseries-garden-centres-a9439071.html


Minnesota nurseries.
https://www.swnewsmedia.com/chanhas...cle_bba94564-46f0-556c-ae6b-e303ea800ca8.html

Break down of the nation by state for green houses and nurseries.
https://www.gardencentermag.com/article/greenhouses-nurseries-garden-centers-essential-coronavirus/



https://www.profoodworld.com/covid-...f-of-processors-have-supply-chain-disruptions
4/3/2020
[FONT=&amp]According to ProFood World’s most recent reader poll, nearly half or 48% of respondents(food processors) are currently experiencing supply chain disruption for goods such as equipment, packaging materials, ingredients, and other plant supplies. Several cited the disruption of goods from Asia and inability to obtain masks and hand sanitizer for plant workers. Here is a sample of responses received this week concerning the supply chain disruption.[/FONT]

• Ingredients are harder to get; [there are] less days available to get trucks to deliver.
• Some spare parts suppliers have been listed as non-essential and have shut down.
• Lead times for packaging supplies have been extended. High demand for packaging needs.
• Getting four-week delay for packaging.
• Slow down on servo motors, drives, and ribbon cables from China.
• Our suppliers are overwhelmed by increased demand and [are] limiting our ability to purchase more.
• A large number of our materials and packaging are purchased from India and China. Luckily, we had multiple months of supply stateside prior to the major disruption. Additionally, we are now seeing disruption stateside with shipments of some materials.

[FONT=&amp]Optimism prevails

JBS is the largest beef processor in the USA. The plant is still operating,but production is down.
[/FONT]https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/31/jbs-meat-plant-greeley-colorado-coronavirus/
[FONT=&amp]Several hundred workers at the JBS USA meat processing plant in Greeley called off work Monday as a handful of cases of the novel coronavirus were confirmed among employees.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]About 500 people called off in the morning and another 400 did not go to work in the evening, said Kim Cordova, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 7[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]“I don’t believe it was a concerted effort by the workers to stage a protest,” she said. “I absolutely believe somebody may have exposed them, or they’re afraid, or maybe folks are sick. I don’t want to speculate until we get the information.


”[/FONT]https://www.ontariofarmer.com/livestock/quebec-processor-shutdown-has-ripple-effect
[FONT=&amp]The temporary shutdown of the Olymel pork processing plant at Yamachiche has had a ripple effect across Eastern Canada.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]The plant, which had doubled slaughter capacity last May, was slaughtering 22,000 pigs per week at the time of closure. It was closed after nine of its employees tested positive for COVID-19.


I am going to make this clear. I do not want everyone to panic. I posted the above information for one reason. So you could prepare.
Supply issues will continue. We are going through a period none of us have lived through before. Events unfold rapidly.
Things that where not an issue yesterday,can become an issue today or in the near future.

Things are not going back to normal anytime soon,and will likely get worse.

Do you have enough food,a basic part of our lives for yourself and those you love if supply issues become more pronounced?

Can you plant a garden?

Prepare.

Be well,be safe,you are loved.

It is not just me sounding the alarm. The United Nations is as well.
[/FONT]https://thehill.com/policy/internat...of-global-food-shortage-caused-by-coronavirus
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) warned of the impact of the COVID-19 virus on the global food supply chain in a notice on their website writing: “We risk a looming food crisis unless measures are taken fast to protect the most vulnerable, keep global food supply chains alive and mitigate the pandemic’s impacts across the food system.”

Concerning the employees walking out; for so many people the only tool they have is reaction, and that spills over to overreaction very easily. If people have not been paying attention to this, trying to stay ahead of the the curve, the only thing they have is what’s on tv right now. I can’t imagine...
ETA or info from FB, that’s even worse!

I would speculate that there will be orders from on high for workers to keep these plants running. For as long as I can remember it has been the US governments policy to assure a cheap and steady food supply, another form of control. This might not end well...

My conspiracy antennae popped up when you mentioned JBS. We have a feed mill in our little town, we just call it United but they are merged with JBS, mostly pig feed historically. Anyway, there is a fantastic truck shop attached, honest and excellent work, but we were told as of Jan 1 they were closed to to public. We were told it was general disease prevention protocol, to keep their trucks from being is the same shop as other farmers that could possibly contaminate. Seemed like a long shot, but now I’m wondering if a higher up in the multinational saw this coming?

 

[ditcherman]

I couldn't find 1 to 3 anywhere except what you said. That is way too strong. They wouldn't recommend that.

Unless your a farmer.
Hey has anybody seen my hands, or the inside of my nose? I can’t find them anywhere.

 

[nra4ever]

Chinese women tried to escape quarantine after returning to China.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9stCm_1585657264

based on what I have seen I would be very afraid of a Chinese “quarantine”.

 

[Phase2]

<<lotsa stuff removed>>

Do you have enough food,a basic part of our lives for yourself and those you love if supply issues become more pronounced?

Can you plant a garden?

Prepare.

Be well,be safe,you are loved.

It is not just me sounding the alarm. The United Nations is as well.
[/FONT][/COLOR]https://thehill.com/policy/internat...of-global-food-shortage-caused-by-coronavirus
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) warned of the impact of the COVID-19 virus on the global food supply chain in a notice on their website writing: “We risk a looming food crisis unless measures are taken fast to protect the most vulnerable, keep global food supply chains alive and mitigate the pandemic’s impacts across the food system.”

 

[chipbennett]

No.
As I mentioned before, they have between 3 and 5 shifts.
They could run with 1 shift, which is their minimum. But then everyone is on shift 24 hours per day.
If they run with 2 shifts, people could get some sleep and food.
They could pull some combat ops, but not fully load.

When they are running all 3, 4, o4 5 shifts, a full combat load still wears everyone out.

I was on a 3 shift's of nukes. Unless a RO went on vacation, then it was 2 shifts.
But I wasn't just the Reactor Operator.
I was also the Reactor Technician
And the Engineering Yeoman.
And the Reactor Control Division Sound Silencing Petty Officer
I was also qualified Reactor Compartment Access watch
Primary Valve Operator
Electrical Operator
Electrical Roving Watch
And the list cntinues.
I was wore out all the time at sea.
In port I was only mostly wore out.

And I had to qualify on all that stuff.
I didn't just arrive, and they assigned me a watch.
Different watch stating require different qual times.
Qualifying Subs, Reactor Operator, and Shutdown Reactor Operator took a year.
I think the Junior Watchstations were starting at 6 weeks, and increased from there.

I didn't know you were a navy nuke! I bet you know a LOT of the people I work with...

 

[ditcherman]

Talking about wearing facemasks in the highlighted area. It’s a shame we can’t get better leadership on this. “I won’t be wearing one” derp derp derp.

 

[Hkindiana]

But how do you get four N95 masks?

I found a box of 20 M95’s in my workshop yesterday that I had forgotten I had - now I’m a GAZILLIONAIRE!!!

 

[Snapdragon]

After the talk about food shortages, I went in search of a second freezer. They were out of stock nearly everywhere I looked. I did find this one that will be nice because it can convert to a fridge if necessary down the line. https://www.sears.com/kenmore-22142-13.5-cu-ft-upright-freezer-white/p-A058458719 There is a $50 off coupon code KENMORE50 .

 

[drillsgt]

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Talking about wearing facemasks in the highlighted area. It’s a shame we can’t get better leadership on this. “I won’t be wearing one” derp derp derp.

I won’t be wearing one either

 

[nra4ever]

After the talk about food shortages, I went in search of a second freezer. They were out of stock nearly everywhere I looked. I did find this one that will be nice because it can convert to a fridge if necessary down the line. https://www.sears.com/kenmore-22142-13.5-cu-ft-upright-freezer-white/p-A058458719 There is a $50 off coupon code KENMORE50 .

you can pick up a used one on marketplace for $50.

 

[terrehautian]

View attachment 85786

Talking about wearing facemasks in the highlighted area. It’s a shame we can’t get better leadership on this. “I won’t be wearing one” derp derp derp.

the problem with the mask suggestion, they don’t want normal people wearing n95’s or surgical because the medical community needs them. That leaves masks that don’t protect people because they don’t filter out the virus according to a chart a medic friend posted (if true). So wearing a mask that isn’t an n95 or surgical does no good potentially. Meaning it is just a feel good suggestion. If they dint protect you, I won’t be wearing One. Sounds like cloth masks and the like are more fashion statements/false security feelings.

i should add medical professionals in hospitals are being told to use their n95’s for a whole week and a surgical for a whole day.