Colin Kaepernick protests the Anthem

[Kutnupe14]

I agree with you on all points... and on the plus-sized privilege, it doesn't currently exist, though the proverbial "they" are attempting to establish a plus-sized privilege, and IMO, failing miserably.

Interestingly enough "fat privilege" did exist in the past, as it indicated that you were wealthy enough to afford regular meals.

 

[Birds Away]

She's from Nigeria.

Dude, do you never look at SI swimsuit addition and read the bios?

Bios?

 

[jamil]

How am I not surprised that Kaepernick isn't offered a job. At this point I don't care any more. I've completely written off the NFL and have told the NFL that. All things NFL are now blocked on all of my TiVos. Don't even show up in the programming guide now. If I could have the scores redacted in my newspaper, I would. NFL can go to He11.

John

Sometimes I wonder if Nessa tweeted that "house n-word" photo of Ray Rice to scuttle any possible deal with the Ravens so they can maintain their victimhood. This is a culture war, after all. And how dare Ray Rice not care about race anyway?

 

[Birds Away]

Interestingly enough "fat privilege" did exist in the past, as it indicated that you were wealthy enough to afford regular meals.

Now it means you're probably too lazy to cook your own meals.

 

[Kutnupe14]

She's from Nigeria.

Dude, do you never look at SI swimsuit addition and read the bios?

I'd be hard pressed to remember the names of Playboy Playmates, outside of a few PMOTYs

 

[JTScribe]

Fans boo kneeling New Orleans Saints players during tribute to fallen NOPD officer | NOLA.com

NFL: "Look, yeah, Kaepernick wore Cops=Pigs socks, but this is a protest about free speech. We respect our first responders."

New Orleans Saints: "Hold my beer."

No matter what the original purpose of the protests were, these idiots have now associated with disrespect of a fallen officer. Well done. SMDH.

 

[jamil]

Interestingly enough "fat privilege" did exist in the past, as it indicated that you were wealthy enough to afford regular meals.

Years ago a Vietnamese co-worker joked with me about how I'd be the most important man in his village back home. I got the joke. Okay, wiseguy, so I said something about him staying away from my dog. He said, "no worry. I vegetarian."

I always thought he had a thick Vietnamese accent, because he was very hard to understand. But then other Vietnamese I worked with said he has a speech impediment and they couldn't understand him either.

 

[Expat]

Bios?

He is probably one of those nuts that claimed there were articles in Playboy back in the day.

 

[jamil]

No, and you'd be challenged to find anyplace where I stated such... because, conversely, I also believe in black, Asian, straight, gay, skinny privilege. Fat privilege, though, that's a hard one the see.
As far as the picture of the woman you posted. I asked a very specific question. She's beautiful, but I doubt you know who she is, and if you did, it's not off the top of your head. She is completely unfamiliar to me at least. I can think two reasonably dark black woman who are attractive, and that Naomi Campbell and Iman, both being well past their prime, and it being arguable that their husbands/boyfriends extended their fame to them.

I wanted to address something I forgot to say earlier. You didn't state it, but you imply it when you try to argue that there is a significant group privilege, still. That falls apart when you step away from group identities--which society has concocted (who is pushing that now)--and start thinking in terms of reality. In reality, there are no groups. Groups are a social construct. There are only individuals. Individuals are real. Societies are social constructs. Blackness and whiteness and brownness are physical attributes of individuals, which, by themselves, don't impede success. The connection we have to people who look like us is social. We can decide that those constructs don't matter. But then we'd have to stop identifying into victim groups, now wouldn't we. But if we did stop all that nonsense, we're then just left with the real barriers to success.

Being ugly gives people less opportunities for success than being pretty. Being smart gives us more opportunities for being successful than being stupid. Having the full, normal range of physical abilities gives us more opportunities for being successful than being physically limited. Those are the real problems of society. They're not just social groups into which we can identify with and claim victimhood. Those are real, physical impediments, and many of them can be overcome. Ugly people can still be successful, especially if they're smart. Stupid people can still be successful if they're pretty. Physically handicapped people can be successful if they're smart, or pretty.

And I'll introduce another artificial barrier. Foolishness. Fools can be more successful to the extent that they become more wise. If you're born in poverty, you're ugly, you're not very smart, but you're wise, and you've learned to be competent at something important, you can be much more successful than a fool who doesn't have those hard barriers.

 

[jamil]

He is probably one of those nuts that claimed there were articles in Playboy back in the day.

Well. When you're tired of looking at those pictures, you read the bios to know where to find more.

 

[d.kaufman]

 

[bwframe]

 

[printcraft]

If it isn't true, at most, it can only be prejudiced. If it IS true, how could that possibly be racist or prejudiced? For the second bolded part, I think you hit on something without noticing it. Poor, stupid, and ugly... and you relate those to success. We will disregard poor, because that's a contentious subject, but we will address the stupid and ugly. As far as "stupid" goes, there has been study after study that "prove" blacks are less intelligent that whites. Even Fox News jumped on that bandwagon: DNA Discoverer: Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites | Fox News .... I don't know any black people that subscribe to such nonsense, but here you have a scholarly source to support that argument. I am completely confident that more than a few people completely believe this is true, but would be afraid to say so publicly.

Next we have the idea of beauty. Regardless of what you say, we have been (me included) to see black as ugly. As a black person, the darker you are, the less attractive you were deemed to be, and conversely, the lighter you are, the more attractive (approaching white) you were. Tell me how many dark skinned women you can think of, off the top of your head, that you believe are attractive. This belief, incidentally, led to the "Black is Beautiful" movement. Again you can find a study that supports this belief... London School of Economics psychologist: Black women are less attractive than whites and asians - Telegraph ...personal preference is one thing, by simply dismissing someone as unattractive simply based on race, is quite another. And again, I'm more than confident a fair amount of people believe this, but just aren't willing to say it aloud.

So disregarding poverty, we have scholarly studies that satisfy the belief that black people, are generally less intelligent, and less attractive. I haven't looked, but I'd be surprised to find a study indicating the opposite. That's two of the three, satisfied, to place an entire group "at the bottom," and if you'd like to expand further, one could say that because of those other two strikes, it's understandable why there's poverty amongst that group. So it's very difficult to say that privilege, as far as this discussion goes, is absent.

So you are saying that my virtually complete non interaction with the police (FYI it has happened but over a lifetime is minimal) is not due to my race, just the fact the I am beautiful?

 

[Liberty1916]

So you are saying that my virtually complete non interaction with the police (FYI it has happened but over a lifetime is minimal) is not due to my race, just the fact the I am beautiful?

I thought he was saying it's because you're smarter.

Oh, and in before the lol.

LOL.

 

[jamil]

So you are saying that my virtually complete non interaction with the police (FYI it has happened but over a lifetime is minimal) is not due to my race, just the fact the I am beautiful?

That seems counterintuitive. The beautiful people should always get pulled over more often for obvious ogling purposes.

 

[bwframe]

...The beautiful people should always get pulled over more often for obvious ogling purposes.

[video=youtube;ri47wy0scmk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri47wy0scmk[/video]

 

[JAL]

Newspaper? What's that?

I still subscribe to one and read it. It's the only way to get local news and that's what they focus on.

John

 

[HoughMade]

Colin Kaepernick files grievance accusing NFL owners of collusion | Fox News

Oh, Mark Geragos....I love that guy.

This'll be interesting. I imagine a grievance is step #1 towards a lawsuit. Exhausting the conditions precedent, doncha know.

 

[JAL]

President overrides White House Press Secretary's afternoon briefing and holds his own press briefing in Rose Garden with Senator McConnell. Relevant to this thread, the POTUS was asked about the NFL yet again and depending on how you count it, he tripled/quadrupled/quintupled down on NFL players "taking a knee" on the field being disrespectful to the nation. Whoever it was that asked the question attempted to shout out a statement of her own. Expect apoplectic reactions from some of the news media.

The NFL blocks on my TiVos remain in place with no plan to remove them.

John

 

[Expat]

So you are saying that my virtually complete non interaction with the police (FYI it has happened but over a lifetime is minimal) is not due to my race, just the fact the I am beautiful?

But you are only beautiful because you are a hot asian chick in real life.