CNN show host Anthony Bourdain didn't top Kathy Griffin but he tried!

[ghitch75]

Because If someone takes me to a Trump Rally, I'm not going to pretend like I agree with what he says.

you won't get attacked ......

 

[Kutnupe14]

That's demonstrably false.

Not it's not. If I had either, I'd go. But you better do a good job with the makeover.

 

[jamil]

Because If someone takes me to a Trump Rally, I'm not going to pretend like I agree with what he says.

So you think you'd fair any better disguised as a white guy?

 

[Kutnupe14]

you won't get attacked ......

Forgive me, if I can't take your assurances as reliable.

 

[Kutnupe14]

So you think you'd fair any better disguised as a white guy?

Yep.

 

[jamil]

Not it's not. If I had either, I'd go. But you better do a good job with the makeover.

It's been my observation that the relatively few violent Trumpers are equal opportunity thugs. White or black, you diss their god, they **** you up.

 

[2A_Tom]

Well, I can see if you were to start a ruckus there would be a reaction in kind.

If you were to practice self control I would not expect a problem.

I have to give you this though, I would not have attended an Obama rally. There was one two miles from my home in 07, and I would to have been afraid to have been there without a reverse Eddie Murphy makeover.

 

[ghitch75]

Forgive me, if I can't take your assurances as reliable.

ok back to the thread before we get told to.....

 

[churchmouse]

Well, I can see if you were to start a ruckus there would be a reaction in kind.

If you were to practice self control I would not expect a problem.

I have to give you this though, I would not have attended an Obama rally. There was one two miles from my home in 07, and I would to have been afraid to have been there without a reverse Eddie Murphy makeover.

I went to an "O" rally here in Indy when he 1st raised his head. It was all you would expect it to be.
I was not the only white guy there but I stuck out like the center of an Oreo.
The words spewed lined out everything he intended to do and like Trump he got started right after he lifted his hand off the bible. No one bashed him as he was a darker shade of Bernie Sanders. Give away Barack. When you give them **** they seldom complain.

 

[Brad69]

I have witnessed in person President Bill Clinton, GW , BHO.
Bill seemed to be a nice guy.
GW is a little dude like small like a mini President.
BHO seemed kinda socially awkward? Seen him twice once as a Senator in Kuwait he was doing a photo op hanging with the troops.
Then a speech I was voluntold to go too. He is also a small skinny dude.

 

[jamil]

I went to an "O" rally here in Indy when he 1st raised his head. It was all you would expect it to be.
I was not the only white guy there but I stuck out like the center of an Oreo.
The words spewed lined out everything he intended to do and like Trump he got started right after he lifted his hand off the bible. No one bashed him as he was a darker shade of Bernie Sanders. Give away Barack. When you give them **** they seldom complain.

Ben Shapiro mentioned in his Q&A session in Berkley the other night. Something I hadn't really put together before about the differences between BHO and Bernie Sanders. I'll try not to butcher this too bad, but Obama's wing of the left is more the identitarian wing, in my own words, I'd say the cultural Marxist wing that pits identities (proletariat) against the "privileged" identities (bourgeoisie). Bernie Sanders represents a more traditional economic Marxism between the haves and the haves not, where he pits the working class (proletariat) against the capitalists/1%'ers.

Of course there's some overlap. Certainly both wings include both identity and economic class warfare. But both wings prioritize one over the other. He said it better than me. I'd highly recommend anyone who hasn't heard Shapiro's Berkley speech and Q&A to give it a listen. It's all over YouTube.

 

[churchmouse]

Ben Shapiro mentioned in his Q&A session in Berkley the other night. Something I hadn't really put together before about the differences between BHO and Bernie Sanders. I'll try not to butcher this too bad, but Obama's wing of the left is more the identitarian wing, in my own words, I'd say the cultural Marxist wing that pits identities (proletariat) against the "privileged" identities (bourgeoisie). Bernie Sanders represents a more traditional economic Marxism between the haves and the haves not, where he pits the working class (proletariat) against the capitalists/1%'ers.

Of course there's some overlap. Certainly both wings include both identity and economic class warfare. But both wings prioritize one over the other. He said it better than me. I'd highly recommend anyone who hasn't heard Shapiro's Berkley speech and Q&A to give it a listen. It's all over YouTube.

My take was an on the fly kind of thing.
I was astounded how tiny BHO really is. No shoulders and just not a substantial guy at all. His suits were tailored to give him some presence as he actually had none.

 

[JAL]

Ben Shapiro mentioned in his Q&A session in Berkley the other night. Something I hadn't really put together before about the differences between BHO and Bernie Sanders. I'll try not to butcher this too bad, but Obama's wing of the left is more the identitarian wing, in my own words, I'd say the cultural Marxist wing that pits identities (proletariat) against the "privileged" identities (bourgeoisie). Bernie Sanders represents a more traditional economic Marxism between the haves and the haves not, where he pits the working class (proletariat) against the capitalists/1%'ers.

Of course there's some overlap. Certainly both wings include both identity and economic class warfare. But both wings prioritize one over the other. He said it better than me. I'd highly recommend anyone who hasn't heard Shapiro's Berkley speech and Q&A to give it a listen. It's all over YouTube.

My take on Bernie Sanders: His self-described "progressive" politics is much more toward ideological socialism in parts than the mainstream of the Democratic Party, stopping just short of going full tilt into abolishing private property ownership and a classless proletariat society (two major tenets of true socialism). He attempted to usurp the Democratic Party, changing his party affiliation just before making his nomination run, and changing it back to independent as soon as he lost the nomination. He's never done a thing for the Democratic Party in his entire political career. The animus toward him from "party faithful" core was not surprising to me. Had he actually won the nomination, his defeat in the general election would have rivaled McGovern's landslide loss to Nixon in 1972. His Herbert Hoover like promises of "a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage" - unlike Hoover, to be provided by the government - were economically untenable. They were pie in the sky pipe dreams, but the 18-24 year olds who had been ignored by Democrats and Republicans alike bought into it out of naivety and ignorance.

Edit:
Bernie Sanders knew how to run a campaign. He also knew how to energize a base, recognizing an enormous one that was being ignored. He knew exactly what to promise them as well. An example is the "free college". He also knew how to gather enormous crowds for his rallies, by making them into free rock concerts, and he leveraged social media for fund raising with an effectiveness that hadn't been seen before. It was similar to McGovern tapping into the very recently enfranchised 18-20 year olds in 1972 that everyone else had dismissed. Politicians should take careful note of the strategies and methods Sanders employed. They were exceptionally effective.

John

 

[jamil]

John, I think that sums it up pretty well. I was careful not to conflate the left with the Democratic Party for that reason. Sanders is an economic socialist more than he is a cultural Marxist like Obama.

 

[Rebel Jack]

D, I would say it is more your disposition than your position.

We can agree to disgree, but it seems you only agree to be disagreeable.

Boom.

 

[Jludo]

My take was an on the fly kind of thing.
I was astounded how tiny BHO really is. No shoulders and just not a substantial guy at all. His suits were tailored to give him some presence as he actually had none.

Nothing wrong with that... sure beats being obese.

 

[churchmouse]

Nothing wrong with that... sure beats being obese.

No not at all. Thing is the press and his handlers set him up to have a bigger presence if that is the right word.
When he was on the beach in Hawaii the pics they took were not allowed to be seen. He is a tiny guy.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I have witnessed in person President Bill Clinton, GW , BHO.
Bill seemed to be a nice guy.
GW is a little dude like small like a mini President.
BHO seemed kinda socially awkward? Seen him twice once as a Senator in Kuwait he was doing a photo op hanging with the troops.
Then a speech I was voluntold to go too. He is also a small skinny dude.

You can't say skinny, that's racist

 

[HoughMade]

You can't say skinny, that's racist

We all saw "Blackhawk Down."

Anyhoo, physical presence isn't a big deal in many professions, like mine....but there's a reason why I don the cowboy boots to add a couple of inches to my 6'3" for closing argument.

 

[jamil]

We all saw "Blackhawk Down."

Anyhoo, physical presence isn't a big deal in many professions, like mine....but there's a reason why I don the cowboy boots to add a couple of inches to my 6'3" for closing argument.

for intimidation or Intimidation?