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  • ditcherman

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    I want to get into this, but also want to respect this thread.
    Well, it says "Religion" so don't bother if you're an atheist coming in here, it says "civil", you're fine there too, and it says "all things", so I don't see why not?
    If someone feels their blood pressure go up and they want to argue they should leave or pm you I suppose?
     

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    Well, it says "Religion" so don't bother if you're an atheist coming in here, it says "civil", you're fine there too, and it says "all things", so I don't see why not?
    If someone feels their blood pressure go up and they want to argue they should leave or pm you I suppose?

    I don't know. People from Ft. Wayne are weird...and smell funny :D
     

    ditcherman

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    Hey look at this!




    Does Joel give an altar call at every service? Google says yes (I wouldn’t know), so when the ‘fbi’ guy called him out for lying it wasn’t a lie.
    I think, among many other things I think about Joel Olsteen, that he blinks a lot, and that this was an obvious attempt to throw him under the bus. You need to do better. (Might not be hard)

    The second one just sounds like something someone would say who is t a millionaire. Yet.

    “Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus. And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. Keep putting into practice all you learned and received from me—everything you heard from me and saw me doing. Then the God of peace will be with you.”
    ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4‬:‭6‬-‭9‬
     

    Brad69

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    What's the purpose of this post? Why did you post it? Just curious.
    I believe that prosperity preacher's are using religion to make money. I would like INGOers opinion of prosperity preachers.

    IMO a religious leader can have a life outside of teaching. It seems outrageous wealth from the church is not inline with faith?

    I also think that many of them do not even believe in the word. They probably laugh about what they are doing behind the scenes.
     

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    I believe that prosperity preacher's are using religion to make money. I would like INGOers opinion of prosperity preachers.

    IMO a religious leader can have a life outside of teaching. It seems outrageous wealth from the church is not inline with faith?

    I also think that many of them do not even believe in the word. They probably laugh about what they are doing behind the scenes.
    The term “prosperity preacher” may mean different things to different people so I’ll just speak to how I understand it.

    First off there is nothing wrong with being wealthy. However it is wrong to love money. “The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil”. “You can not serve two masters… You can not serve both God and money”.

    The problem is when a preacher says that your wealth and health is only limited by your faith. They take a few scriptures out of context and build a doctrine out it. When contrasted with the larger context of the Bible it doesn’t agree. Like when Jesus says “take up your cross and follow me”. And “Whoever desires to save his life will loose it but whoever looses his life for my sake will find it”. We are told throughout the scripture to keep an eternal perspective, looking forward to our Blessed Hope which is eternal life in Heaven. Prosperity preachers flip it around backwards and make success and wealth in this life more important than “storing up treasures in heaven” and more important than cultivating a personal relationship with Christ. Really what it is, is a false doctrine that makes money an idol. That’s my take anyway.
     

    foszoe

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    I believe that prosperity preacher's are using religion to make money. I would like INGOers opinion of prosperity preachers..
    Prosperity preachers are preaching heresy. They are preaching a false gospel.

    The Christian should expect to suffer for Christ's sake.

    I didn't watch the video for full disclosure.
     
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