CIVIL RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION: All things Christianity

[T.Lex]

McCarrick (formerly a cardinal) was officially kicked out of the priesthood over the weekend for abuse of adults and minors.

He "didn't remember" anything about the allegations.

While this action had some aspects of meaninglessness, it was at least a strong symbolic statement. This man at one time was one of the most influential Catholics in the US.

 

[historian]

Wow...I'm proud of the RCC!

 

[JettaKnight]

Back to the SBC, Russell Moore has spoken:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/opinion/southern-baptists-sexual-abuse.html

and on his blog:
https://www.russellmoore.com/2019/02/10/southern-baptists-and-the-scandal-of-church-sexual-abuse/

 

[T.Lex]

Wow...I'm proud of the RCC!

So, for me, it isn't that simple.

Yes, this is something that should have happened. A long time ago.

This isn't a great analogy, but if I loan somebody $5 and they say they'll pay me back on their next payday, but they don't pay me until a year later, I'm certainly grateful that they repaid the debt. But, I'm not exactly thrilled that it took so long, and they didn't do what they originally said they would.

 

[historian]

So, for me, it isn't that simple.

Yes, this is something that should have happened. A long time ago.

This isn't a great analogy, but if I loan somebody $5 and they say they'll pay me back on their next payday, but they don't pay me until a year later, I'm certainly grateful that they repaid the debt. But, I'm not exactly thrilled that it took so long, and they didn't do what they originally said they would.

Let me move your analogy. If you loaned someone $5 bucks and they said they would pay you back on their next payday, but didn't pay you until a year later, you would be happy to get your money back. However, I would have written off the $5 so, when you get something expecting nothing it is a pleasant surprise.

 

[T.Lex]

Let me move your analogy. If you loaned someone $5 bucks and they said they would pay you back on their next payday, but didn't pay you until a year later, you would be happy to get your money back. However, I would have written off the $5 so, when you get something expecting nothing it is a pleasant surprise.

haha

Ok, the common ground is settled. Defrocking (former) Cardinal McCarrick was a pleasant surprise.

 

[historian]

haha

Ok, the common ground is settled. Defrocking (former) Cardinal McCarrick was a pleasant surprise.

Indeed!

 

[NKBJ]

With all the hooplah about the next temple...
I'm waiting to see what plays out!

 

[T.Lex]

BBC - Culture - Virgin of the Rocks: A subversive message hidden by Da Vinci


Cool analysis of the da Vinci versions of "Virgin of the Rocks."

Trigger warning: talks about Mary's sinlessness, but only in passing. The payoff is that it looks at whether da Vinci embedded heretical observations into the paintings.

 

[JettaKnight]

BBC - Culture - Virgin of the Rocks: A subversive message hidden by Da Vinci


Cool analysis of the da Vinci versions of "Virgin of the Rocks."

Trigger warning: talks about Mary's sinlessness, but only in passing. The payoff is that it looks at whether da Vinci embedded heretical observations into the paintings.

 

[NKBJ]

Yesterday was listening to a fascinating (to me anyhow) interview with a jewish fellow who commented on the jews previously being kicked out of the land because they didn't didn't abide by the conditions set by God. Which of course follows with they still are not keeping their end of the deal (yet again)...

 

[HoughMade]

Yesterday was listening to a fascinating (to me anyhow) interview with a jewish fellow who commented on the jews previously being kicked out of the land because they didn't didn't abide by the conditions set by God. Which of course follows with they still are not keeping their end of the deal (yet again)...

If it’s God making that decision, so be it.

However, I will not presume to speak for him.

 

[NKBJ]

For a long time I've been interested with looking at what He says, what He does and how He does it.

The fellow interviewed cannot speak for God of course. Near as I can tell the fellow was correct in what he had to say about the three greater removals in the past and their behavior in the present. And it is of interest of course because of what God has spoken into existence as otherwise there would be nothing to the matter. Any how, it was refreshing to hear bible based discussion instead of left behind zionism. Got a few hours behind the wheel tomorrow so maybe will listen again. There are some points about WWII and that whole new age cabal of genius level murderers with great fashion sense who created the mass movement of the people back to the land that I puzzle over.

 

[T.Lex]

Seems to me that, for the modern Israel to have won and continue to exist, strongly implies - perhaps even requires - some amount of divine guidance.

 

[NKBJ]

Yeah, Father really is in charge one way or the other.
When they (Judah) are removed again it won't be the first time they were blessed, in high cotton and then messed up.

 

[T.Lex]

BBC - Travel - A 2,000-year-old biblical treasure

“Archaeology is important because it shows us how people lived, and we need that to understand the past, to understand our traditions,” said Alliata, who is also an archaeologist and who excavated some of the displayed items.

 

[historian]

Holy cow!

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/583693/

 

[JettaKnight]

Holy cow!

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/583693/

Praise God!

 

[foszoe]

Seems the free willers are doing better than the reformed...

 

[historian]

Seems the free willers are doing better than the reformed...

Quite the opposite. This MIGHT be a turning point for the UMC, we will see if they can take back their church though. As was pointed out in the article, they still ignore the Bible when it comes to women in the pastorate.

I find it funny that the tables have turned and the Liberals might have to walk away from their buildings. Usually conservative congregations are the evicted ones since the national policy is against them.