Citizen stops robbery

[Classic]

Weird story. I don't really know for sure what I would do but I think once the guy started for me the 1911 would be speakin a bit.

 

[Kutnupe14]

having a firearm and having the mindset to use it are two things that don't always go hand in hand. Taking another's life is a hump that many can't get over.

 

[KillStick]

He does realize Guns are made to be shot, right?!

Or...

Maybe he is one of those guys who carry not loaded for safety it provides. You know he practiced a LOT of times and knows he can rack the slide faster than someone get to him...

I love the thought process that you can rack a slide before someone can get to you. They must have never seen the 21 feet rule, a guy with a butter knife can get you faster than what you would think.

 

[blamecharles]

Maybe he is one of those guys who carry not loaded for safety it provides. You know he practiced a LOT of times and knows he can rack the slide faster than someone get to him...

Haha condition butterscotch comes to mind. If you haven't seen it I'm sure someone will post it.

 

[Fishersjohn48]

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...defense/186647-robbery_in_elwood_stopped.html

 

[mwg]

maby he should trade his gun in on a nice stick

 

[jeremy]

So which INGO Member is it...

 

[SmileDocHill]

WOW the ole triple merge. Don't get to do that very often. Three threads merged together, keep that in mind when reading. SDH

 

[SSGSAD]

Weird story. I don't really know for sure what I would do but I think once the guy started for me the 1911 would be speakin a bit.

YES, when S&W, Colt, or glock talk, EVERYBODY should LISTEN !!!!!

 

[donnie1581]

I don't think he's on INGO but I've talked to him since the incident. John has a few weapons training classes under his belt. He is also well known in the community and is friends with all the officers in Elwood. He is also not a small guy, especially compared to the 18 year old punk who thought he was going to roll one over on John.

I don't know Jeremy (the punk) but I went to his face book profile and Tuesday night (night before this happened) he was posting about how he's "going back to the old me" and is going to go look for some random person to beat up.

John did the right thing. He handled the situation with minimal force necessary to subdue the threat. John is a hero in my book, and I hate seeing people on here talking about how they would do it different or he did it wrong etc...

 

[donnie1581]

wxin - Elwood father fights off three robbers to protect his town

The skinny is these guys were robbing a store the Armed Citizen pulls his gun and challenges then. My favorite line in the story is: “One of the guys charged me,” said Davis. “He came right toward me and I hit him with my gun". Davis said the suspect kept punching him until police arrived."
LMAO! I guess his plan was to stall him by allowing him to beat his behind until the police arrived! Two word: Bang Bang. Saved the perps life but Lord help him if the bad guy got ahold of the gun.

I think you misunderstood, Jeremy had to go to the hospital. John didn't suffer any damage, not even a scratch. Like I said, John knows what he's doing and there are many ways to control someone while they "TRY" to hit you and when they do connect a punch, it don't hurt because they are being restrained.

 

[modelflyer2003]

I think you misunderstood, Jeremy had to go to the hospital. John didn't suffer any damage, not even a scratch. Like I said, John knows what he's doing and there are many ways to control someone while they "TRY" to hit you and when they do connect a punch, it don't hurt because they are being restrained.

You have to admit that the way the story unfolds in the article, it would lead one to believe the way I took it. Apparently I am not the only one. I'm glad the guy's alright, and would also hate to see an 18 year old punk not get a second chance in life. He's young and very stupid. John should have laid him out with a fist or a bullet. He had every reason to not just prevent the punk from getting a good punch in on him, but to knock his teeth down his throat. Believe me when I say I am not inherently violent, but some folks have it coming. Glad John's ok.

 

[johndavis111]

I appreciate your opinions and I assure you that if one of the others would have joined the fight they would have been shot. Also if I had scene any weapon on them at all I would have shot as soon as he came at me. This is not the first time I have fought more than one guy and I felt confident I could handle the situation without killing someone. Like I said I do understand your feelings/opinions but I made a call with the absence of a weapon on thier part not to kill someone that night. Most people aren't put in my position and its easy for everyone else to tell me what I "should have" done. As you can imagine I have relived that moment a thousand times. Also I have the security video from the store and I feel I did the right thing. The guy that came at me was 175 lbs and I am 225 lbs and an avid weightlifter and former wrestler. I sincerely felt like I could handle it. I totally understand where you guys are coming from and respect your comments as reasonable. I assure you I have no problem with shooting a scumbag robbing a store armed in any way. We all have to draw our lines I guess.

 

[johndavis111]

oh ya I also read the typo they had in one of the articles. Jeremy Morris never landed a punch on me. He tried and it was pathetic. He went to the hospital because I beat him till the cops arrived. He was high or whatever. And to clarify for someone else who posted earlier. I walked in and a woman I have known for a long time who works behind the counter says "we are being robbed" now to me robbed usually means violence or armed or otherwise deadly. I drew my gun because I needed to quickly figure out what was going on. I realized soon after that they were not openly armed and I decided to go down a different path with them. It worked out for me and for them. But rest assured I was determined to go home to my family that night and I would have done what it took. My gun was armed and I know how to use it.

 

[johndavis111]

I think you misunderstood, Jeremy had to go to the hospital. John didn't suffer any damage, not even a scratch. Like I said, John knows what he's doing and there are many ways to control someone while they "TRY" to hit you and when they do connect a punch, it don't hurt because they are being restrained.

Thanks for looking out for me Donnie. I just stumbled across these forums. Its easy for people to talk trash when they haven't been in my shoes. They don't understand we are from a small town where we are pretty close. I didn't know it at the time but I know 20+ people that are close family of Jeremy morris. Anyway its not all black and white about this subject. Not every person robbing a store is a blood thirsty crack head who deserves to die. Sometimes they are dumbass kids who need an ass beating. Im glad I was there to administor that assbeating. And had he pulled a weapon or anyone else tried to hurt me they would have been shot. Thanks again Donnie for the kind words.

 

[Tryin']

Win!

 

[NapalmFTW]

oh ya I also read the typo they had in one of the articles. Jeremy Morris never landed a punch on me. He tried and it was pathetic. He went to the hospital because I beat him till the cops arrived. He was high or whatever. And to clarify for someone else who posted earlier. I walked in and a woman I have known for a long time who works behind the counter says "we are being robbed" now to me robbed usually means violence or armed or otherwise deadly. I drew my gun because I needed to quickly figure out what was going on. I realized soon after that they were not openly armed and I decided to go down a different path with them. It worked out for me and for them. But rest assured I was determined to go home to my family that night and I would have done what it took. My gun was armed and I know how to use it.

Sounds like you did the right thing in the circumstances. Not sure how I would've handled it in your shoes.

Kudos for doing it without killing anyone.

Oh and

 

[blamecharles]

thanks for joining us and giving your side of the story. Great job.

I appreciate your opinions and I assure you that if one of the others would have joined the fight they would have been shot. Also if I had scene any weapon on them at all I would have shot as soon as he came at me. This is not the first time I have fought more than one guy and I felt confident I could handle the situation without killing someone. Like I said I do understand your feelings/opinions but I made a call with the absence of a weapon on thier part not to kill someone that night. Most people aren't put in my position and its easy for everyone else to tell me what I "should have" done. As you can imagine I have relived that moment a thousand times. Also I have the security video from the store and I feel I did the right thing. The guy that came at me was 175 lbs and I am 225 lbs and an avid weightlifter and former wrestler. I sincerely felt like I could handle it. I totally understand where you guys are coming from and respect your comments as reasonable. I assure you I have no problem with shooting a scumbag robbing a store armed in any way. We all have to draw our lines I guess.

 

[HICKMAN]

He was outnumbered, would have easily been justified in shooting.

that said, KUDOS for carrying and being there to do something about it. In the end, it all worked out.

even bigger stones for carrying a Sigma

 

[johndavis111]

ty guys. I appreciate the support and i totally understand that the media doesn't do these stories justice and isn't always accurate. I am glad to answer any questions.

I love my S+W lol. Ive shot alot of rounds through it and I trust it. I don't mind the hard trigger. I have gotten used to it and I have strong fingers anyway