Chicago Averages 60 Shot Per Week

[Kirk Freeman]

While J-Fled and Tiny Dancer tell us that crime is down, the butcher's bill tells a different story.

Take it to the alley, Chicago.

Second City Cop: 10 Dead, 34 Wounded

 

[SSGSAD]

I thought that Chicago, was a gfz, ..... oh wait, the SCOTUS, changed that !!!!!

 

[eldirector]

Better pick up the pace, if they want to eclipse last year!
Shootings -- Crime in Chicagoland -- chicagotribune.com
(interesting charts here)

 

[cosermann]

It's all the burbs fault.

 

[printcraft]

The ammo shortage becomes more clear.

 

[2A_Tom]

Watching the morning news before work today Second police shooting in Chicago in as many days.

Couple of days ago They shot a man with a baseball bat for no reason at all.

Three AM today they noticed a gathering of about thirty people (gathered to mourn a friend killed in a traffic accident) while approaching to investigate one person started walking away, when told to stop he walked faster, when pursued he turned and pulled a gun, two officers fired several shots hitting the suspect and knocking him down. The suspect then got to his feet and ran into an open field where he collapsed. A gun was recovered at the scene.

All of the witnesses agreed that the police had no reason to shoot him. They had been there for a memorial but would be back for a protest.

 

[Bennettjh]

Indiana should feel bad because that's where all Chicago's illegal guns come from ya know.

 

[pudly]

when pursued he turned and pulled a gun, two officers fired several shots hitting the suspect

...

All of the witnesses agreed that the police had no reason to shoot him.

Do you have a link for this. My head hurts from reading it.

 

[2A_Tom]

Do you have a link for this. My head hurts from reading it.

Sorry, dropped out of grade school to join the army.

It was on channel 5 news this morning I couldn't find a link on line.

Just found it.http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/07/22/police-officers-shoot-man-in-englewood/

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/police-involved-shooting/

 

[pudly]

Sorry, dropped out of grade school to join the army.

No problem. I was just commenting on the juxtaposition of those two lines in my quote. So, basically the cops claim he had a gun and the crowd claims he had a cup. Wonder if they have videos?

 

[foszoe]

Indiana should feel bad because that's where all Chicago's illegal guns come from ya know.

Indiana is a state, it doesn't have feelings, and I wish there was no such thing as illegal guns, just illegal owners.

 

[singlemalt]

With the court rulings that allow the good people of Chicago to get larrys how long do you suppose it will be before the crime rate starts to come down? Or put another way, what percentage of the population has to carry before rates start to decline?

 

[chipbennett]

Watching the morning news before work today Second police shooting in Chicago in as many days.

Couple of days ago They shot a man with a baseball bat for no reason at all.

Three AM today they noticed a gathering of about thirty people (gathered to mourn a friend killed in a traffic accident) while approaching to investigate one person started walking away, when told to stop he walked faster, when pursued he turned and pulled a gun, two officers fired several shots hitting the suspect and knocking him down. The suspect then got to his feet and ran into an open field where he collapsed. A gun was recovered at the scene.

All of the witnesses agreed that the police had no reason to shoot him. They had been there for a memorial but would be back for a protest.

Does that much cognitive dissonance cause seizures, or merely headaches?

 

[KLB]

With the court rulings that allow the good people of Chicago to get larrys how long do you suppose it will be before the crime rate starts to come down? Or put another way, what percentage of the population has to carry before rates start to decline?

Crime rates or shootings? The presence of legal gun owners won't do anything to stop these people from shooting at each other.

While people in Chicago can get a license, the places you can actually carry are very limited. Just the fact that public transportation is off limits greatly limits who can carry a gun.

 

[mcjon77]

Crime rates or shootings? The presence of legal gun owners won't do anything to stop these people from shooting at each other.

While people in Chicago can get a license, the places you can actually carry are very limited. Just the fact that public transportation is off limits greatly limits who can carry a gun.

It is somewhat limited, but not nearly as bad as some people make it sound. The people hurt the most are those who use public transportation. If you both use public transportation AND work in a GFZ, you basically are banned from carrying to and from work.

However if you have a car it is not nearly as bad as it sounds. I have had my FCCL (that is what we call it in Illinois) for just over a month. and I have only been to one place (my mother's dentist) where I couldn't carry. None of the stores and restaurants that I frequent are GFZs.

The biggest problem with the Illinois FCCL is the cost. You can expect to drop at least $400 to get the license between application fee and training. This will be a big barrier for residents in poorer communities. The second biggest problem is access to ranges for the training course. There are ZERO public gun ranges or gun stores in Chicago, so you have to go out of the city to take the range portion of your training. If you have a car then it isn't too bad. If you don't, then you will suffer. Honestly, if I didn't have a car, I wouldn't have bothered getting the FCCL. It would have been a waste of money.

In terms of stopping crime in Chicago, I think there are two issues with that. First, since most homicides are criminal on criminal violence, concealed carry will have virtually no effect on that. Second, while FCCL holders have been able to protect themselves in Chicago, I just don't believe that there are enough of them (in terms of percentage of the general population) to have an effect on criminals that prey upon innocent victims.

 

[KLB]

It is somewhat limited, but not nearly as bad as some people make it sound. The people hurt the most are those who use public transportation. If you both use public transportation AND work in a GFZ, you basically are banned from carrying to and from work.

However if you have a car it is not nearly as bad as it sounds. I have had my FCCL (that is what we call it in Illinois) for just over a month. and I have only been to one place (my mother's dentist) where I couldn't carry. None of the stores and restaurants that I frequent are GFZs.

The biggest problem with the Illinois FCCL is the cost. You can expect to drop at least $400 to get the license between application fee and training. This will be a big barrier for residents in poorer communities. The second biggest problem is access to ranges for the training course. There are ZERO public gun ranges or gun stores in Chicago, so you have to go out of the city to take the range portion of your training. If you have a car then it isn't too bad. If you don't, then you will suffer. Honestly, if I didn't have a car, I wouldn't have bothered getting the FCCL. It would have been a waste of money.

In terms of stopping crime in Chicago, I think there are two issues with that. First, since most homicides are criminal on criminal violence, concealed carry will have virtually no effect on that. Second, while FCCL holders have been able to protect themselves in Chicago, I just don't believe that there are enough of them (in terms of percentage of the general population) to have an effect on criminals that prey upon innocent victims.

Correct, except a large percentage of people in the city don't drive much of anywhere.

Also working downtown Chicago, I can tell you there are a lot of buildings with the no gun signs. They popped up quickly and I wondered if the City put pressure on businesses to put them up.

If I remember correctly, large gatherings are off limits too.

 

[2A_Tom]

I just saw this.

Report: Chicago?s Neighborhood With Most Gun Carry Permits is 55% Black, 34% Hispanic | Washington Free Beacon

 

[miguel]

Best site for Chicago shooting stats: 2015 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

Best individual chart: Chicago Shot-in-the-Junk-O-Meter | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!