Breaking: Per SCOTUS, Same-Sex Marriage is now law of the land.

[Expat]

Men in Black: How the Supreme Court Is Destroying America: Mark R. Levin: 9781596980099: Amazon.com: Books

Excellent reading.

 

[HoughMade]

The hard way? Can't the govener of the state of Kentucky just recall her?

Only if he appointed her. Otherwise, it's impeachment.

 

[jamil]

The hard way? Can't the govener of the state of Kentucky just recall her?

Only if he appointed her. Otherwise, it's impeachment.

Either way the way I intended, the easy way is for her to resign. The hard way is for her to be removed, by whichever legal mechanism is required.

 

[PaulF]

How does someone who has been married four times get to deny a marriage license to anyone else based on "biblical" grounds?

Hypocricy much?

 

[HoughMade]

How does someone who has been married four times get to deny a marriage license to anyone else based on "biblical" grounds?

Hypocricy much?

Well.....the man has a point. One could say that she's standing up for her right to go after a speck while saying "what log"?

...if you get my meaning.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

How does someone who has been married four times get to deny a marriage license to anyone else based on "biblical" grounds?

Hypocricy much?

So if you speed while driving down the highway, change lanes without signalling, roll through a stop sign or two or maybe that orange-ish traffic light....are you allowed to complain about the jerk texting on his/her cell phone?

 

[steveh_131]

How does someone who has been married four times get to deny a marriage license to anyone else based on "biblical" grounds?

She became a Christian 4 years ago (after her divorces) so this point is kind of moot.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

She became a Christian 4 years ago (after her divorces) so this point is kind of moot.

I was wondering about that. Hypocrisy is condemning others for doing what you, yourself are guilty of doing. If you used to be a drug addict or adulterer and straightened out your life (removed your own plank) you are not a hypocrite by not condoning or speaking out about those that still do.

 

[HoughMade]

I was wondering about that. Hypocrisy is condemning others for doing what you, yourself are guilty of doing. If you used to be a drug addict or adulterer and straightened out your life (removed your own plank) you are not a hypocrite by not condoning or speaking out about those that still do.

This guy has a point.

 

[PaulF]

So if you speed while driving down the highway, change lanes without signalling, roll through a stop sign or two or maybe that orange-ish traffic light....are you allowed to complain about the jerk texting on his/her cell phone?

Complain, sure. Absolutely.

Block them from using the road? No, absolutely not.

 

[steveh_131]

This guy has a point.

How come he gets credit for my point!? NOT FAIR.

 

[HoughMade]

How come he gets credit for my point!? NOT FAIR.

You've got a point.

 

[steveh_131]

I don't want it now. KEEP IT.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And the oath for a KY county clerk is not hard to find.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth, and be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky so long as I continue a citizen thereof, and that I will faithfully execute, to the best of my ability, the office of ______________________, according to law; and I do further solemnly swear (or affirm) that since the adoption of the present Constitution, I, being a citizen of this State, have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this State, nor out of it, nor have I sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons, nor have I acted as second in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus offending, so help me God.
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In light of the warped logic SCOTUS used to arrive at the decision that puts us where we now find ourselves, maybe this clerk thinks she is supporting the Constitution of the US and of KY.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

How come he gets credit for my point!? NOT FAIR.

The fair was over a week or two ago.

 

[cobber]

Complain, sure. Absolutely.

Block them from using the road? No, absolutely not.

Can a parent who did something stupid and illegal as a teen forbid their own kids from doing the same thing, or punish them when they do said stupid, illegal thing?

 

[steveh_131]

The fair was over a week or two ago.

I can spot a Dad Joke a mile away.

 

[HoughMade]

In light of the warped logic SCOTUS used to arrive at the decision that puts us where we now find ourselves, maybe this clerk thinks she is supporting the Constitution of the US and of KY.

Probably and I agree that marriage definition should have been a state issue, not federal, but the ship has sailed on that. Like it or not, under our system, a Constitutional right to same sex marriage has been found to exist. She is free to disagree, as any private citizen is. What she is not free to do is an end run around the separation of powers and decide that her personal Constitutional definition should apply in an official governmental function rather than that of the Supreme Court.

Her sincerity may not be in issue, but being sincere doesn't make one's actions legal.

 

[cobber]

Probably and I agree that marriage definition should have been a state issue, not federal, but the ship has sailed on that. Like it or not, under our system, a Constitutional right to same sex marriage has been found to exist. She is free to disagree, as any private citizen is. What she is not free to do is an end run around the separation of powers and decide that her personal Constitutional definition should apply in an official governmental function rather than that of the Supreme Court.

Her sincerity may not be in issue, but being sincere doesn't make one's actions legal.

Goodbye to federalism then.

Let's just do away with the fiction of the united States, and name the country, say, Denali.

And have uniform criminal and civil law, modeled, say, on New York State?

 

[jamil]

You've got a point.

You've got a point. He has a point.

I don't want it now. KEEP IT.

It's a point. You have it now. Be happy.

In light of the warped logic SCOTUS used to arrive at the decision that puts us where we now find ourselves, maybe this clerk thinks she is supporting the Constitution of the US and of KY.

It's like I said before, that's not what she's saying.

The fair was over a week or two ago.

You have a point.