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  • hog slayer

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    Trying to cut out the unnecessary parts of a previous post but it's just not easy on such a small screen.

    "One true version of God's word" while this wasn't my statement it seems reasonable that what was hoped to be passed is that there was an original text. Many, actually, that was compiled and greatly scrutinized to ensure accuracy. That has become what we know as the Holy Bible. A translation (even the coveted King James Version is a translation. Nobody talks like that! ) is not only acceptable (not many speak Hebrew or ancient Greek) but desired. The amount of effort to preserve the meaning is truly incredible and would make for a more lengthy post. The old and new testament are both necessary to make a whole bible. Unlike some religions the bible is only the inspired word of God thus infallible, not a thing to be worshiped. Only the Trinity is to be worshiped.
     

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    He also said that eunuchs (which was used to refer to homosexual men) were that way form birth.

    Definition of eunuch
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    : a castrated man placed in charge of a harem or employed as a chamberlain in a palace
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    : a man or boy deprived of the testes or external genitals
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    : one that lacks virility or power

    You, sir, are mistaken
     

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    I feel like I need to share this for those who don't know or have forgotten. The Scout Oath
    On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country, to help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

    Fantastic!

    National motto: in God we trust

    Marines fight for God, country, corps

    Just don't tell anybody. They'll take it away
     

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    The penalties remain death, so it might be worthwhile to understand how perversions are defined. :)

    Absolutely true. The end result is....death! You cannot win alone. There is a playbook that will show you how to not be finished by the bodily death you WILL experience
     

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    This is one of those threads where you view the first page... "mhm, ok, yeah, that makes sense..." and skip to the last page and wonder where it all went wrong.
     

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    This is one of those threads where you view the first page... "mhm, ok, yeah, that makes sense..." and skip to the last page and wonder where it all went wrong.

    It's a topic centered on right and wrong and the general consensus that in at least one area those ideas are being blurred. The problem then becomes one of defining rights and wrongs. This has no ability to be solved without an unchanging supreme being: the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
     

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    Isnt it actual Corps, country, and then god? At least generally?

    No longer having such easy access to supporting documents it has been tough to dig this up. It used to be in many documents and manuals which have apparently been "updated". The idea was that we were Faithful to God, Country and Corps. And, not that it really matters much to the guys actually doing the work, it was in that order. You can find it within a few documents not attached to a .mil website now. You do have to be cautious that your search results remain respectable. Maybe if I quit maintaining two homes I'll have all of my books and written materials around and could scan it for you. Again, we could debate the importance of the order all day. None of that matters to the guys actually in the mix.
     

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    He also said that eunuchs (which was used to refer to homosexual men) were that way form birth.

    Definition of eunuch
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    : a castrated man placed in charge of a harem or employed as a chamberlain in a palace
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    : a man or boy deprived of the testes or external genitals
    3
    : one that lacks virility or power

    You, sir, are mistaken
    [FONT=&quot]"For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. To him who can comprehend, that is enough." (Matthew 19:12)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The Aramaic wordm'haym-ne (plural) is translated as eunuchs here, but literally means: trusted ones, faithful ones and believers. These "trusted ones" were also servants such as chamberlains, eunuchs and officers. Additionally, m'haym-ne meant homosexual men because they weretrusted around women that were married or were not of their family. They weren't a threat in committing adultery with other mens' wives or in having pre marital sex with the women of the nation.
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    [FONT=&quot] The born eunuchs in the above verse from Matthew are referring to homosexual men. The second part of the verse says:"and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men;" These would be the man-made or castrated eunuchs. Also, the eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men were those appointed by the king to be servants in the king's palace. Some of these were prisoners of war, captives, and exiles (Isaiah 39:7 Lamsa). The third part of this verse should be read as: "and there are believerswho made themselves celibates for the sake of the kingdom of heaven."[/FONT]
     

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    [FONT=&amp]"For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. To him who can comprehend, that is enough." (Matthew 19:12)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]The Aramaic wordm'haym-ne (plural) is translated as eunuchs here, but literally means: trusted ones, faithful ones and believers. These "trusted ones" were also servants such as chamberlains, eunuchs and officers. Additionally, m'haym-ne meant homosexual men because they weretrusted around women that were married or were not of their family. They weren't a threat in committing adultery with other mens' wives or in having pre marital sex with the women of the nation.
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    [FONT=&amp] The born eunuchs in the above verse from Matthew are referring to homosexual men. The second part of the verse says:"and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men;" These would be the man-made or castrated eunuchs. Also, the eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men were those appointed by the king to be servants in the king's palace. Some of these were prisoners of war, captives, and exiles (Isaiah 39:7 Lamsa). The third part of this verse should be read as: "and there are believerswho made themselves celibates for the sake of the kingdom of heaven."[/FONT]

    The Lord would not have condemned homosexuality as sinful if it were in a persons DNA. It is a choice, just as any sinful decision is a choice that person makes, and it goes against Gods` design, plan, and Will.
     

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    The Lord would not have condemned homosexuality as sinful if it were in a persons DNA. It is a choice, just as any sinful decision is a choice that person makes, and it goes against Gods` design, plan, and Will.

    Calvinists would disagree.
     

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    [FONT=&amp]"For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. To him who can comprehend, that is enough." (Matthew 19:12)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]The Aramaic wordm'haym-ne (plural) is translated as eunuchs here, but literally means: trusted ones, faithful ones and believers. These "trusted ones" were also servants such as chamberlains, eunuchs and officers. Additionally, m'haym-ne meant homosexual men because they weretrusted around women that were married or were not of their family. They weren't a threat in committing adultery with other mens' wives or in having pre marital sex with the women of the nation.
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    [FONT=&amp] The born eunuchs in the above verse from Matthew are referring to homosexual men. The second part of the verse says:"and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men;" These would be the man-made or castrated eunuchs. Also, the eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men were those appointed by the king to be servants in the king's palace. Some of these were prisoners of war, captives, and exiles (Isaiah 39:7 Lamsa). The third part of this verse should be read as: "and there are believerswho made themselves celibates for the sake of the kingdom of heaven."[/FONT]


    Below is from one of numerous examples of....Uh No.

    Didn't Jesus say some are born homosexual?

    No where is there even a hint homosexuality in Matthew 19. Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman. "And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate"" (Matthew 19:4-6). Sexual relations outside of marriage is condemned (fornication and adultery). The discussion about eunuchs is about foregoing marriage. Since sex is only allowed within marriage (Hebrews 13:4), Jesus is not saying that some people are natural born homosexuals, he is talking about men who are unable to have sex or chose to forego sexual relations by not marrying.
     

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    [FONT=&amp]"For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. To him who can comprehend, that is enough." (Matthew 19:12)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&amp]The Aramaic wordm'haym-ne (plural) is translated as eunuchs here, but literally means: trusted ones, faithful ones and believers. These "trusted ones" were also servants such as chamberlains, eunuchs and officers. Additionally, m'haym-ne meant homosexual men because they weretrusted around women that were married or were not of their family. They weren't a threat in committing adultery with other mens' wives or in having pre marital sex with the women of the nation.
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    View definition inStrong's Greek Hebrew Dictionary Transliteration: eunouchos
    Phonetic Pronunciation:yoo-noo'-khos
    Definition:
    from eune (a bed) and <G2192> (echo); a castrated person (such being employed in Oriental bed-chambers); by extension an impotent or unmarried man; by implication a chamberlain (state-officer) :- eunuch.

    Greek Word: εὐνοῦχος
    Root: from eune (a bed) and <G2192>
    Part of Speech: noun masculine



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    What sort of resource are you using? I'm guessing a study bible? Do you happen to know if it is a technical study bible or a functional version? Certainly you've at least made a solid effort and I applaud you for that.

    You make holsters for sale? Got a website or photo gallery?
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    Combine the Boy Scouts and Girls Scouts. End of Discussion.

    On another note. The KJV is a version that's what the V stands for no matter how much one wants to think otherwise.

    The only official Bible is Greek, OT and NT.

    Finally, read Genesis 1 and 2 to see what the natural state of anthropos was to be. Anything it has morphed into outside that framework is the result of sin and the fall.
     
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    The Lord would not have condemned homosexuality as sinful if it were in a persons DNA. It is a choice, just as any sinful decision is a choice that person makes, and it goes against Gods` design, plan, and Will.

    It's been established beyond any doubt that gay people are born that way. They have no choice in the matter.
     
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