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  • Kutnupe14

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    So how do you feel about people that traveled from Seattle to Kenosha? A la the ones that were arrested at the gas station in the bus and bread truck?

    Same way. If they committed a crime, then they are liable for it. My preference, is that if your aren’t from there, stay away from there. Let the locals sort it out.
     

    Tombs

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    His “employer?” I find it difficult to believe that someone specifically hired a 17 year kid to stand armed, outside of their business. Is there somewhere specific I can go to research that further?

    Just going to have to go through the literal truckloads of different statements, tapes, and articles.

    He wasn't hired to stand armed, apparently he worked at that car lot. The car lot was asking for people to help protect their stuff.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Same way. If they committed a crime, then they are liable for it. My preference, is that if your aren’t from there, stay away from there. Let the locals sort it out.

    Agreed. Which is why it makes no sense for Portland, freakin' Oregon to be still burning 3 months after George Floyd's death. You do realize that all of this ceased to be about race about a week (or less) after George Floyd's death, right? Now it's about Marxism and bringing down the entire American government. BLM leadership has admitted as much by stating that they are "trained Marxists".

    George Floyd's death should've been handled in Minneapolis. Breonna Taylor's death should've been handled in Louisville. Jacob Blake's shooting should've been handled in Kenosha. And yet, here we are. One has to ask, "why?" What do those 3 cities/states have in common? :scratch: I'm seeing a pattern. And yet, some people are still considering voting for Democrats that brought all of this on and continue to do nothing about it at best, and encourage it at worst.
     

    KJQ6945

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    Question for INGO.

    When the police officers were acquitted of state charges in the Rodney King incident, the Feds stepped up and filed civil rights violation charges against the officers. They were convicted.

    When you read the charging affidavit against Rittenhouse, the prosecutor almost spells out that it was self defense, but charges him with first degree murder, and then some. This is willfully depriving him of his civil rights.

    2020 appears to be a record setting year of prosecutions against cops and people trying to defend themselves against the rioters. The prosecutions appear to be politically motivated to appease the mob. When will we see federal civil rights charges brought against the prosecutors in these malicious prosecutions?


    editing to add the US code.
    https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
     
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    DoggyDaddy

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    Question for INGO.

    When the police officers were acquitted of state charges in the Rodney King incident, the Feds stepped up and filed civil rights violation charges against the officers. They were convicted.

    When you read the charging affidavit against Rittenhouse, the prosecutor almost spells out that it was self defense, but charges him with first degree murder, and then some. This is willfully depriving him of his civil rights.

    2020 appears to be a record setting year of prosecutions against cops and people trying to defend themselves against the rioters. The prosecutions appear to be politically motivated to appease the mob. When will we see federal civil rights charges brought against the prosecutors in these malicious prosecutions?

    My prediction is never, unless and until enough people wake up (which is diametrically opposed to getting "woke") and realize which party has brought this upon us.
     

    KJQ6945

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    My prediction is never, unless and until enough people wake up (which is diametrically opposed to getting "woke") and realize which party has brought this upon us.
    I tend to agree. I didn’t dig very hard into this, and it seems it is generally used against the cops, when the feds think the locals got the wrong outcome. I didn't see where they’ve ever gone after a prosecutor for going after the good guys. Maybe it’s time.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    I tend to agree. I didn’t dig very hard into this, and it seems it is generally used against the cops, when the feds think the locals got the wrong outcome. I didn't see where they’ve ever gone after a prosecutor for going after the good guys. Maybe it’s time.

    Yep. First step would be to cut off the head of the snake (the prosecutors or higher up).
     

    dusty88

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    It is very odd to read the description from the prosecutor, it sounds like they are describing self defense events, and yet they are charging him.

    Is this ever a normal process, so that they can bring someone in and then continue the investigation and change the charges?
     

    MCgrease08

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    Same way. If they committed a crime, then they are liable for it. My preference, is that if your aren’t from there, stay away from there. Let the locals sort it out.

    I'm a little surprised to hear you take this position. Aren't you originally from Alabama? Because that type of thinking sounds an awful lot like what I have always been told racists in the south used as a precursor to harrassment, assault and in some cases, murder of black people.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I'm a little surprised to hear you take this position. Aren't you originally from Alabama? Because that type of thinking sounds an awful lot like what I have always been told racists in the south used as a precursor to harrassment, assault and in some cases, murder of black people.

    Fighting the govt isn’t the same as fighting your fellow citizen. The former, unlike the latter, was encouraged by our founding fathers.
     

    MCgrease08

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    Fighting the govt isn’t the same as fighting your fellow citizen. The former, unlike the latter, was encouraged by our founding fathers.

    So would you consider that group of men attacking the kid a case of fighting the government and not fighting a fellow citizen?
     

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    Fighting the govt isn’t the same as fighting your fellow citizen. The former, unlike the latter, was encouraged by our founding fathers.

    Their local governments are generally in agreement with them.

    Who exactly are they fighting, if not their fellow citizens?
     
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    Agreed. Which is why it makes no sense for Portland, freakin' Oregon to be still burning 3 months after George Floyd's death. You do realize that all of this ceased to be about race about a week (or less) after George Floyd's death, right? Now it's about Marxism and bringing down the entire American government. BLM leadership has admitted as much by stating that they are "trained Marxists".

    George Floyd's death should've been handled in Minneapolis. Breonna Taylor's death should've been handled in Louisville. Jacob Blake's shooting should've been handled in Kenosha. And yet, here we are. One has to ask, "why?" What do those 3 cities/states have in common? :scratch: I'm seeing a pattern. And yet, some people are still considering voting for Democrats that brought all of this on and continue to do nothing about it at best, and encourage it at worst.

    all 3 are major shipping ports.
     

    actaeon277

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    Support Peaceful Protest Act..

    This would strip benefits from rioters.
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    [video=youtube_share;dSsUEoAOA1U]https://youtu.be/dSsUEoAOA1U[/video]
     

    cobber

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    I tend to agree. I didn’t dig very hard into this, and it seems it is generally used against the cops, when the feds think the locals got the wrong outcome. I didn't see where they’ve ever gone after a prosecutor for going after the good guys. Maybe it’s time.

    QFT
     
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