Bird-sized aerial drones being deployed to spy on citizens

[rambone]

This thread is arguably lame. Are they crop-dusting polio vaccinations from above?

All the posts I have seen from you are these brilliant drive-by trolling comments. Never anything substantive that I can remember. Do you enjoy being spied on, not care, what? Troll harder, or contribute to the discussion.

 

[public servant]

i can tell you this,,,if you have a pretty lady who lives next door and lays out in summer,,,behind a tall fence,,,if you get out your spotting scope and climb on your roof to look at her,,,you will have problems,,,

You got caught, huh?

 

[6birds]

All the posts I have seen from you are these brilliant drive-by trolling comments. Never anything substantive that I can remember. quote]
Read slower, it's in there.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

I really don't think these things are going to be flying around out in the country, unless they are looking for illegal contraband being farmed...or looking at the pretty woman laying out in the summer, behind the tall fence. I think for traffic control where it does get expensive keeping a helicopter out there, there isn't anything wrong with it. I'll just take out my RC radio jammer and watch it dive into the ground

 

[rich8483]

I like playing around on Google Earth, viewing my property from above and entering cordinates from my GPS of hunting spots to check the area out from above. Although the views are a couple years old.
It makes me wonder how far off different law enforcement agencies are from being able to view these images in more current views.
Hey I just thought of something. I am going to have to check out the Ponderosa Sun Club near Roselawn and see how clear those images are.

lol, two things about that. i already tried it and as you zoom in further, it says "image not available"

not to mention, my brothers buddy who drives deliver truck in the roselawn area and has unwantingly had deliveries there has said "there is a reason they are all naked. they dont manufacture clothes that large"

 

[jeremy]

At 400 feet they are arguably both silent and discreet. When you aren't staring up at the sky and you are surrounded by the usual distractions of an American town.

At 400' they are real easy to spot look for the Moron with the Controller. He will be standing almost under the Craft. These birds only have a flight time of maybe 5-10 minutes, maybe. If Ignorant Afghans can evade them, then surely someone who is semi educated should be able to...

 

[Yamaha]

i see one of those over the house, the 97 is coming out to play......lol

 

[Expat]

At 400' they are real easy to spot look for the Moron with the Controller. He will be standing almost under the Craft. These birds only have a flight time of maybe 5-10 minutes, maybe. If Ignorant Afghans can evade them, then surely someone who is semi educated should be able to...

Maybe you are overestimating some people's .... well you know.

 

[kingnereli]

Just wait till Rambone finds out about the sharks with laser beams on their heads. He'll really panic then.

 

[Expat]

Just wait till Rambone finds out about the sharks with laser beams on their heads. He'll really panic then.

I suspect you of being a fellow /.er

 

[jsharmon7]

I don't know what the big deal is here. Some agencies already use planes/helicopters over farmer's fields to look for marijuana patches. Most things that the drone is going to see would be plain-view anyway. With all the other stories you post about "nanny state" policies, I'd think this is the least of your concerns, Rambone.

 

[Jack Ryan]

It's not searching if it's in plain sight. That should be a pretty easy concept to comprehend.

I think the ruling is something like a "...reasonable expectation of privacy by normal people..."

Little cameras in model airplanes flying around 100 feet over my house or 10 feet off the ground peeking in the windows isn't what I consider "plain sight". Take pictures of their kids swimming in the baby pool in the back yard and you'll be in jeopardy of child pornography and peeper laws, yet you would not have a chance in heck of convicting the parents in the situation of offering their children for use in producing child pornography because of invasive snooping.

It's snooping. It's invasive. It's trespassing. It's against the law in the United States.

Property rights state clearly if you own property, you own as deep as you can dig and as high as you can fly. I recommend they be shot down at every opportunity. Fire at will.

If police think it's needed and the right thing to do they should lobby the lawmakers to pass a law allowing them to fly cameras any where they want over any thing they want taking pictures, infrared, night vision, audio, what ever they want to snoop around in to. That would mean any one else could do the same if you don't need a warrant.

Watch how far that stupid idea flies. Funny just how stupid some of this crap police want to do seems once you apply it to regular normal mere mortals.

 

[level.eleven]

Jack Ryan vs. Dick Lugar.

Has a certain ring to it.

 

[DRob]

No worries

Those of us in Marion County have little to worry about. IMPD's helicopters have been grounded for months. I doubt they're likely to be buying any fancy little drones. Now those guys running that detention camp in Beech Grove......I don't know. A bunch of them just won the lottery. That could be cover for the financing of a covert operation!

Just wondering, though............If you built a tinfoil canopy over the area you have privacy-fenced, would you be safe from prying flying eyes?

 

[lashicoN]

Not to be a grumpy Guss, but when the government admits they want flying spy drones above your house, the whole tin-foil hat wearing paranoid guy bit just isn't funny anymore. I mean they are taking nude body images of us when we go to an airport...so there really isn't much to joke about anymore, it's all real. We just have some people unable to admit it, probably because they're terrified of where we are as a country now.

 

[kingnereli]

I think the ruling is something like a "...reasonable expectation of privacy by normal people..."

Little cameras in model airplanes flying around 100 feet over my house or 10 feet off the ground peeking in the windows isn't what I consider "plain sight". Take pictures of their kids swimming in the baby pool in the back yard and you'll be in jepardy of child ponography and peeper laws, yet you would have a chance in heck of convicting them offering their children for use in producing child pornography because of invasive snooping.

It's snooping. It's invasive. It's tresspassing. It's against the law in the United States.

Property rights state clearly if you own property, you own as deep as you can dig and as high as you can fly. I recomend they be shot down at every opportunity. Fire at will.

If police think it's needed and the right thing to do they should lobby the lawmakers to pass a law allowing them to fly cameras any where they want over any thing they want taking pictures, infrared, night vision, audio, what ever they want to snoop around in to. That would mean any one else could do the same if you don't need a warrant.

Watch how far that stupid idea flys. Funny just how stupid some of this crap police want to do seems once you apply it to regular normal mere mortals.

You only have air rights to the airspace that you can reasonably use. A drone 400 feet over your house is not trespassing. How often have commercial jets asked your permission to enter your airspace? Same thing.

 

[rich8483]

Not to be a grumpy Guss, but when the government admits they want flying spy drones above your house, the whole tin-foil hat wearing paranoid guy bit just isn't funny anymore. I mean they are taking nude body images of us when we go to an airport...so there really isn't much to joke about anymore, it's all real. We just have some people unable to admit it, probably because they're terrified of where we are as a country now.

maybe said people just dont know about it yet b/c they have not left the house in months b/c they are unemployed.

 

[kingnereli]

Not to be a grumpy Guss, but when the government admits they want flying spy drones above your house, the whole tin-foil hat wearing paranoid guy bit just isn't funny anymore. I mean they are taking nude body images of us when we go to an airport...so there really isn't much to joke about anymore, it's all real. We just have some people unable to admit it, probably because they're terrified of where we are as a country now.

The "spy" drones part is worthy of the "tin-foil hat wearing paranoid guy bit." That's just nervous speculation. The only example given of the use of these things was in the execution of a search warrant, not spying. The agencies that use these (almost all federal) have to get permission and there are some very worthwhile uses for them. There will be a debate about their acceptable use and there will be regulations based on the outcome of the debate.

Just remember, it's the mind control waves that will eventually get us.

 

[machete]

You only have air rights to the airspace that you can reasonably use. A drone 400 feet over your house is not trespassing. How often have commercial jets asked your permission to enter your airspace? Same thing.

not the same thing... if a A300 buzzes my house at 400 feet and 40 miles and hour,,,were going to have big problems...

whats the problem here??? why not stand up for freedom on this??? why not stand with the PEOPLE in any argument over whether this is a good idea??? why do some people EVER want to stand up for more government power???

 

[jeremy]

Not to be a grumpy Guss, but when the government admits they want flying spy drones above your house, the whole tin-foil hat wearing paranoid guy bit just isn't funny anymore. I mean they are taking nude body images of us when we go to an airport...so there really isn't much to joke about anymore, it's all real. We just have some people unable to admit it, probably because they're terrified of where we are as a country now.

No, I feel it is a Violation of my Rights.
The downside is that those of us that feel like me are the Minority. The Great Majority of the People will be but it is for the War on Drugs, or Think of the Children it will save. All the while trading Our Liberty for Their Security...

I really do not see much advantage to the drones over the real time Sats that can read the newspaper with you, that have been being used for decades...