Be thankful next time you think Indiana laws suck

[addictedhealer]

When I read stuff like this I always wonder how it is okay to ship out 19 and 20 year old kids with a gun in their hand and let them die for our countries war. Then when they get home they are treated like a criminal. Pisses me off, thank you for your service and welcome back to the real America. Where at in Indiana will you be moving back to?

 

[indydrew1]

When I read stuff like this I always wonder how it is okay to ship out 19 and 20 year old kids with a gun in their hand and let them die for our countries war. Then when they get home they are treated like a criminal. Pisses me off, thank you for your service and welcome back to the real America. Where at in Indiana will you be moving back to?

And those same kids can kill, defend our freedom, yet cant have a beer. Legally........MERICA

 

[Jarhead77]

Semper Fi brother. Welcome to INGO and when ya get back to the "free" state of Indiana, PM me, I'll go shooting with ya!

Can't think of a better 1000th post!

 

[wizard_of_ahs]

To be expected in Kalifornia !!!

Thank you for your service !!

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[Dead Duck]

When you finally pack up and cross that AZ border, it's going to be like a huge weight was lifted off your chest.
While your still there, bite your tongue and don't give them any reason to hold you there any longer.


Watch your 6.

 

[cosermann]

... California does have a castle doctrine however no stand your ground laws and the law specifically states that the assailant would have to have INTENT to cause severe bodily harm or death. Which he didnt have. ...

So, CA laws basically require you to be a mind reader then? Nice.

 

[USMC-Johnson]

SEMPER FI!

So help me understand. The burglars potential intent was determined 'after' they were under the gun?

Little lost by your question. As far as i'm concerned i have every right to draw on someone after they cross the plane of that door pretty much regardless of who they are. If i then determine that their intent is to do anything other than have a drunk mistake and pass out on my couch (only bring that up because i have two friends[both marine] who woke up the next day on a strangers couch very hung over) than they have just crossed the line where i determine if their goal is to cause any sort of harm to my family or residence in which case i then have the right to use lethal force. Drawing is a precaution just due to the fact that if they do intend to injure or kill me and they have a gun i wont have the chance to draw if they are committed and that is not a chance i'm willing to take.

 

[USMC-Johnson]

When I read stuff like this I always wonder how it is okay to ship out 19 and 20 year old kids with a gun in their hand and let them die for our countries war. Then when they get home they are treated like a criminal. Pisses me off, thank you for your service and welcome back to the real America. Where at in Indiana will you be moving back to?

Little picture to leave you with on this topic.

 

[jwh20]

Little picture to leave you with on this topic.

Indeed, as someone who is old enough to have had a draft card but just young enough to not get drafted for Vietnam, I recall the argument that "these young men are old enough to go to war but not old enough to buy liquor." But 19, heck they were drafting and sending 18 year-old's 1/2 way around the world to fight in SE Asia.

But what do you expect from Bloomberg? I'm sure he'd have been an "objector" of some sort.

 

[cook4army]

As a US Army retiree, I had no idea that there were so many of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children on this site.

Anyways, from one vet to another, thank you for what you do.

Sorry to hear that the criminals in your area have more rights than you do, but once you leave AD, come on back to Indiana, and live in a good pro-2A state.

 

[9mmfan]

Thank you for your service sir. Sorry about your trouble, but I'm not surprised at all. I don't think you'll have trouble finding someone to go shooting with here.

 

[Sgtusmc]

SEMPER FI!

So help me understand. The burglars potential intent was determined 'after' they were under the gun?

Little lost by your question. As far as i'm concerned i have every right to draw on someone after they cross the plane of that door pretty much regardless of who they are. If i then determine that their intent is to do anything other than have a drunk mistake and pass out on my couch (only bring that up because i have two friends[both marine] who woke up the next day on a strangers couch very hung over) than they have just crossed the line where i determine if their goal is to cause any sort of harm to my family or residence in which case i then have the right to use lethal force. Drawing is a precaution just due to the fact that if they do intend to injure or kill me and they have a gun i wont have the chance to draw if they are committed and that is not a chance i'm willing to take.

YOUR judgement was not in question. Different state, different mindset I guess. Where I live, I don't have buddies crashing on my couch to consider. Anyone who defeats my locked barriers in the middle of the night has proven their intentions enough for me to use lethal force to remove the threat.

My comment had more to do with the laws you had to consider as the police let them walk, thereby determining them to not be a threat AFTER THE FACT. I was just imagining the criminals grinning as they walked singing 'good ole california'

 

[USMC-Johnson]

YOUR judgement was not in question. Different state, different mindset I guess. Where I live, I don't have buddies crashing on my couch to consider. Anyone who defeats my locked barriers in the middle of the night has proven their intentions enough for me to use lethal force to remove the threat.

My comment had more to do with the laws you had to consider as the police let them walk, thereby determining them to not be a threat AFTER THE FACT. I was just imagining the criminals grinning as they walked singing 'good ole california'

The situation as it happened i probably wouldn't have shot in Indiana either to be honest. They did not present a threat after entering the house. They followed my directions to the T. Lethal force is not always required. Certainly if either of them had moved a hand fast or taken another step in my direction they'd have caught 175 grains of hollow point. I had about 15 feet stand off with all bed rooms in the house only accessible by going through me. Plus i have to take into account the laws that are present where i resided at the time. If i had shot them in this state i'd be in prison right now. I'll through a phrase out there that only the Marines in here will appreciate...Situation dictates.

 

[Sgtusmc]

The situation as it happened i probably wouldn't have shot in Indiana either to be honest. They did not present a threat after entering the house. They followed my directions to the T. Lethal force is not always required. Certainly if either of them had moved a hand fast or taken another step in my direction they'd have caught 175 grains of hollow point. I had about 15 feet stand off with all bed rooms in the house only accessible by going through me. Plus i have to take into account the laws that are present where i resided at the time. If i had shot them in this state i'd be in prison right now. I'll through a phrase out there that only the Marines in here will appreciate...Situation dictates.

Its not surprising to know you possessed the presence of mind to handle the situation with the consideration for thier lives. You are a warrior. Yes, situation dictates.

 

[HenryWallace]

I'm conflicted on war, yet impressed by self motivation. Especially when you feel it's the BEST action that you personally can take. For that I commend you.

On the story side. I'd say WFT else would or could you have done? Common sense is not common, and you most def had every justifiable reason to do what you did.
Maintain your path, but beware of .gov doctors and your rights to own a firearm. There is a very legit reasoning to be aware of (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuy64j6Xcrg) medical reasoning to be disarmed.

 

[USMC-Johnson]

I'm conflicted on war, yet impressed by self motivation. Especially when you feel it's the BEST action that you personally can take. For that I commend you.

On the story side. I'd say WFT else would or could you have done? Common sense is not common, and you most def had every justifiable reason to do what you did.
Maintain your path, but beware of .gov doctors and your rights to own a firearm. There is a very legit reasoning to be aware of (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuy64j6Xcrg) medical reasoning to be disarmed.

As far as i'm concerned i did nothing wrong and the cops are the ones to blame. you can do everything write down to the tiniest details and still get screwed based on how a cop perceives it. Perception is reality. The only other thing i could have done would be to very quietly disarm them, silence them, and go dump them in any of the hundreds of mine shafts out here.

Sometimes doing the right thing, isnt doing the right thing.

 

[JetGirl]

i have two friends[both marine] who woke up the next day on a strangers couch very hung over)

I see you've met some of my family...

 

[firecadet613]

Thank you for your service.

 

[Redhorse]

The situation as it happened i probably wouldn't have shot in Indiana either to be honest. They did not present a threat after entering the house. They followed my directions to the T. Lethal force is not always required. Certainly if either of them had moved a hand fast or taken another step in my direction they'd have caught 175 grains of hollow point. I had about 15 feet stand off with all bed rooms in the house only accessible by going through me. Plus i have to take into account the laws that are present where i resided at the time. If i had shot them in this state i'd be in prison right now. I'll through a phrase out there that only the Marines in here will appreciate...Situation dictates.

The way it sounds, you did a good thing. I think you did brilliantly
Also, thank you for your service

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Sometimes doing the right thing, isnt doing the right thing.

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Now, by the laws of INGO, I get to post videos of Samuel L. Jackson:

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