Be careful with those FTF deals

[SSGSAD]

I have had SEVERAL, FTF meetings here on INGO, and all went well... EVERYONE, was very personably, except one, and he just "took the money, and run"..... No problems, though.....

 

[lucky4034]

Too bad...

Yeah, if we can't meet at a local range or high traffic, video recorded area (like a walmart or shopping mall in the middle of the day)... then I'll pass.

 

[SERparacord]

Always have friends nearby. Armed.

 

[ultraspec]

I just usually have people meet me in a very public place or at the nearest police dept to where we are meeting.

 

[Que]

I understand the criminal mind is not always rational, but how can someone make a deal to meet someone on Craigslist and not be tracked down? Do they use some kind of pseudo-name with technology that can't be tracked?

 

[griffin]

I hope he wasn't selling the guns at his wife's insistence.

I kept wondering the same thing.

 

[thompal]

Wow, nice reminder. I'd say it had to do with the multiple guns, but I'm definitely not saying it couldn't happen to a single sale.

I've heard of the same thing happening when the sale involved car wheels, and another time when it was a game system. Both of those were in Indiana.

 

[mainjet]

This is the exact reason that when I meet someone it is in a wide open mall parking lot where I have at least one man, up high, with a sniper rifle.

But on a more serious note - it seems weird that they didn't take the guns or anything else. They just met up with the guy and shot him.

 

[SERparacord]

This is the exact reason that when I meet someone it is in a wide open mall parking lot where I have at least one man, up high, with a sniper rifle.

But on a more serious note - it seems weird that they didn't take the guns or anything else. They just met up with the guy and shot him.

The guns would have tied them to the crime.

 

[mainjet]

The guns would have tied them to the crime.

sure but I don't think they took money or anything did they? So why did they shoot him in the first place?

It's kind of like robbing a store but you don't take anything because it would tie you to the crime. It's hard for a criminal to make a decent living like that.

 

[cmepp18]

Good point mainjet. It sounds like this might have been personal.

 

[rhino]

A couple of observations:

1. Pretty much everything you can do is more dangerous to do in Memphis than where you live, unless you live somewhere like Gary. I would not meet someone I don't know for any kind of transaction there, much less a gun trade or sale/purchase.
2. We can't have enough reminders to be vigilant.
3. The same level of vigilance should accompany us to shooting ranges as well. Too many people assume that everyone around them at a range is an upstanding citizen, and that is not always the case.

 

[thompal]

A couple of observations:

1. The same level of vigilance should accompany us to shooting ranges as well. Too many people assume that everyone around them at a range is an upstanding citizen, and that is not always the case.

I agree with this, although I've never SEEN an issue with this. It always worries me though, when I am at a range by myself, and during a cold period, have to leave all of my firearms, ammunition, and gear on the table while I go downrange to change targets.

 

[billybob44]

NEVER be Unarmed at a range..

I agree with this, although I've never SEEN an issue with this. It always worries me though, when I am at a range by myself, and during a cold period, have to leave all of my firearms, ammunition, and gear on the table while I go downrange to change targets.

I believe this has come up before..I, and most shooters ALWAYS have a handgun on my person, at a range, or shooting on my friends "Back 40". This is one that I will NOT be shooting that day, unless my life is on the line.

I also do NOT leave a gun loaded on the bench while I check targets. Most of the time the long guns are pointed down range, toward the target, and me while I am checking-thus unloaded..Bill.

 

[thompal]

I believe this has come up before..I, and most shooters ALWAYS have a handgun on my person, at a range, or shooting on my friends "Back 40". This is one that I will NOT be shooting that day, unless my life is on the line.

I also do NOT leave a gun loaded on the bench while I check targets. Most of the time the long guns are pointed down range, toward the target, and me while I am checking-thus unloaded..Bill.

They may be unloaded, but there are probably several boxes of ammo immediately next to them! I always have this nagging worry that while I'm 100 yards downrange, some of my gear with go missing, or some crazy may decide to insert a magazine.

If I go with a friend, we alternate trips downrange, so that one of us is always at the table.

 

[Warrior1178]

Busy areas are the best.

 

[churchmouse]

They may be unloaded, but there are probably several boxes of ammo immediately next to them! I always have this nagging worry that while I'm 100 yards downrange, some of my gear with go missing, or some crazy may decide to insert a magazine.

If I go with a friend, we alternate trips downrange, so that one of us is always at the table.

If I am solo at the range I have a holstered gun. I am not touching it, it is not pointed but holstered. I have had discussion about this with the range safety people and they can have issue but seldom do. As I said, alone at the range.

When we meet to buy/sell a gun I am "Never" alone. I am always armed and in full SA as is my son or son-in-law. I have never had an alarm go off in my head about any ingo folks I have met. All have been wonderful, conversant and spot on.
I have used other forums but no longer. I have had issue with some of those folks. Tried to change the agreement, I am short on the money etc. Done except ingo. Good folks.

 

[stephen87]

Always day light and always in a chain store or chain restaurant parking lot.
So far I have had no problems

Just sold one yesterday in a parking lot of a busy restaurant, had my handgun on my hip the whole time. If you're nervous about it, don't do it or take someone with you.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I understand the criminal mind is not always rational, but how can someone make a deal to meet someone on Craigslist and not be tracked down? Do they use some kind of pseudo-name with technology that can't be tracked?

Piggy back someones wifi, it will lead the cops to the wrong house

 

[mainjet]

Piggy back someones wifi, it will lead the cops to the wrong house

Could you break that down into simple steps that I can follow