RMC, you didn't refute any of the points ATM laid out for you. If you are going to have a debate in a forum such as this, that would be a good starting point. You resorted to ad hominem fallacies, which shows upon your character. I simply gave you some advice to hopefully assist in this debate. There are others that take similar viewpoints as yours that don't resort to such actions. Try to follow their lead.
I am assuming your response is rhetorical instead of actually wanting me to respond point by point. If not, just let me know and I will address each individual point or comment you posted.
I apologize for sounding condescending in my previous post and I will try to avoid doing so in the future. As far as ATM is concerned, he has been nothing but a troll in my humble opinion that has continually twisted what I have posted so he could attack things I did not say, and he has done it to others. The fact that he has 16k+ posts to my mere 400+ noway gives him superiority over anything. To me, it just means he has no life and likes to read his own posts. I might have a different perspective if he spent as much effort stating his own views instead of ridiculing others or digging up posts from yesteryear just to sustain an argument. So as far as following leads, that is exactly what I have done. I also apologize for allowing myself to get involved in the off topic direction this thread has drifted. I will do my best to stay on topic. Instead of dragging everyone through anymore of this, might I suggest taking this to PM's?