Asked to Leave Logansport Mall for OCing Off Duty

[Double T]

I didn't think Indiana was an OC legal state. Did some research on C 35-47-2-3 and thought it had the part about open carry being revoked. Help to educate me? I guessed LEO were an exception to this.

IC is silent on method of carry, only thing is that you must have a license to carry. No mention as to your method of choosing.

 

[MikeDVB]

I didn't think Indiana was an OC legal state. Did some research on C 35-47-2-3 and thought it had the part about open carry being revoked. Help to educate me? I guessed LEO were an exception to this.

If you can show me where the law says 'OPEN' or 'CONCEAL' then you may be correct.

Fact of the matter is our laws are silent on the form of carry, both open and concealed are allowed.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I didn't think Indiana was an OC legal state. Did some research on C 35-47-2-3 and thought it had the part about open carry being revoked. Help to educate me? I guessed LEO were an exception to this.

Your wording indicates a misconception with American law. We do not need permission from the government to do anything. As long as there is no law against it, then it is fine.

But beware, 200 years of idiot politicians and control freaks have made just about everything illegal if you look hard enough. Just ask some cops about DC or CR.

 

[MikeDVB]

Your wording indicates a misconception with American law. We do not need permission from the government to do anything. As long as there is no law against it, then it is fine.

But beware, 200 years of idiot politicians and control freaks have made just about everything illegal if you look hard enough. Just ask some cops about DC or CR.

I had a discussion with a friend last night for about 4 hours about the constitution protecting rights and not granting rights as well as natural rights existing regardless of whether the government recognizes them or not.

Was... Interesting.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I had a discussion with a friend last night for about 4 hours about the constitution protecting rights and not granting rights as well as natural rights existing regardless of whether the government recognizes them or not.

Was... Interesting.

Government sponsored education at its finest. I went to private school for a few years and that started the ball rolling.

I feel like I am still just a beginner when it comes to the finer points though.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Government sponsored education at its finest. I went to private school for a few years and that started the ball rolling.

I feel like I am still just a beginner when it comes to the finer points though.

Noob

 

[MikeDVB]

Government sponsored education at its finest. I went to private school for a few years and that started the ball rolling.

I feel like I am still just a beginner when it comes to the finer points though.

She's actually Canadian, haha. [The one with which I was discussing.]

 

[charley59]

Well. I live here and Mom lives in Logansport, just East of the Mall. I will make sure I do not do business at Logansport Mall.

 

[Jerchap2]

An off-duty LEO generally has more training in the safe use of a firearm than many or most with LTCH and knows the law. I would think they would be happy to have one there if trouble broke out. Never been to that mall, and now never will.

 

[MikeDVB]

An off-duty LEO generally has more training in the safe use of a firearm than many or most with LTCH and knows the law. I would think they would be happy to have one there if trouble broke out. Never been to that mall, and now never will.

You do, of course, realize that there are a lot of individuals who take training way above and beyond what officers receive right?

An officer should be better trained than the average untrained individual, however, that doesn't mean they are the best of the best.

At the end of the day an officer is just another person with training and while they're obviously required to have training, that doesn't mean those who are not officers haven't acquired training as well.

 

[ultra...good]

KAIT NEWS

Yes, all cops are proficient with firearms. It is in their blood.

 

[CPT Nervous]

#prettyviolentandexcitinglife

 

[theweakerbrother]

Castle Rock V. Gonzales. I think that's the one. SCOTUS says the police do not have a duty to protect the individual.

Here's a great example of how the state loves you, too:

Warren v. District of Columbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[majew]

As LE, you should have known firearms weren't allowed there. Just about anyone that visits this site knows mall rules especially if they've been here since 2008. How can you enforce laws if you don't know them yourself? And did you expect preferential treatment simply because you were LE which is why you are so upset when it didn't happen? Reminds me of LEO's that speed through busy traffic and drive with excessive speed simply because they can.

I don't think mall rules really fall under laws a leo should know.

 

[karatejoe]

I was a LEO from 1987 to 2001. Unless on duty I carried concealed EVERYWHERE. I never got questioned or disarmed or asked to leave any where. Think.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I was a LEO from 1987 to 2001. Unless on duty I carried concealed EVERYWHERE. I never got questioned or disarmed or asked to leave any where. Think.

Think?

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I was a LEO from 1987 to 2001. Unless on duty I carried concealed EVERYWHERE. I never got questioned or disarmed or asked to leave any where. Think.

I've been an American Citizen from 1985 to the present and I carry legally and hold LEOs accountable to the law they are supposed to be protecting. Think.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I've been an American Citizen from 1985 to the present and I carry legally and hold LEOs accountable to the law they are supposed to be protecting. Think.

This I understand

 

[churchmouse]

I was a LEO from 1987 to 2001. Unless on duty I carried concealed EVERYWHERE. I never got questioned or disarmed or asked to leave any where. Think.

Things have changed drastically these days.

 

[92ThoStro]

I'm glad you find humiliating people humorous.

He should have left out his "descriptions" and just called them by their positions.

Respect is earned not thrown out like candy at a parade.

I like this quote I read in a book once...

"Demanding of another that he earns your respect is, in and of itself, an act of arrogance, a way of self-elevation, implying by its very nature that your respect is worth earning." R.A. Salvatore

Respect is NOT earned, it should be given freely to anyone and everyone until they do something that causes you to give them no respect. Someone should not have to earn your respect.