But you can't call her an "illegal immigrant" anymore. Now, you have to say "undocumented Democrat...."
Why do you presume she is a democrat? Don't the illegal Mexicans come here to work for Republicans in big agriculture and construction?
I think having the option to open carry is great. Do I see many circumstances where it is practical? No. I OC on my private property/in my home because I mainly carry a full size duty pistol at home. When I go out in public I normally down size the carry gun for concealment or I conceal carry a Beretta M9 (yes, it CAN be done with some forethought). I actually had an assignment in the Army that required plain clothes/concealed carry with an M9 and we had to get special permission in order to do that.
I carry several knives every day. One as a tier in my personal protection plan, one mainly for work use and a small pocket knife for "general" purpose. The personal protection knife and work knife are pocket clip models. For the most part, "out of sight, out of mind". Don't need to draw undue attention to myself by walking around with a machete slung across my back. If I go into a place of business that has a no weapons sign posted, I discretely slip the knife off the pocket clip and down into the pocket until I leave the place.
Yes, I think the original poster should have used some common sense/discretion with his carry choice in a mall. Do I think he was expecting preferential treatment because he is a LEO, absolutely. I know all LEOs are human and thus fallible, however I have personally known, worked with and observed dozens of LEOs in the last 25 years. City police, county deputies, state police and federal LEOs. I can count on one hand the number of those officers that I have/had respect for. The majority were arrogant. Many cheated on their spouses, most would drink and drive, almost all would speed to the excess in their vehicles, both duty and personal. Most were not proficient with firearms, most were very opinionated about what laws they would and wouldn't enforce, horse play on duty.
Want some examples?
A. I am driving down the interstate at the posted limit and a county deputy passes me like I am setting still. I mash the gas and catch up to him. We are now running 90 mph. In a ten mile stretch he is speeding, improper lane change, passes on the right and failure to signal. On a call/responding to an emergency? No, pulled into a restaurant for lunch with his cop buddies.
B. I am driving down a state road at the posted limit and a county sheriffs car passes me like I am in park. I mash the gas and catch up to it. We are running 85mph. It makes a left hand turn while failing to signal, rolls down the window and throws a pop bottle into the ditch. On a call/responding to an emergency? Pulled into the Chevrolet dealership for service. After further investigation, turns out it was the sheriff's wife who worked at the jail.
C. Running around 465 and a Brownsburg cop passes me like I am setting still. Mash the gas, climb on his rear bumper and follow him to I-74 where he takes off like his axx is on fire. I turn on the video camera and follow him as we reach speeds of 100+ mph. Turn the video over to the Chief of Police and tell him if he doesn't deal with it, I will send it to the news. I can go on and on and on about speeding cops. Lets change gears.
D. Cop walks into the P.D. and startles a fellow cop playing with his weapon and gets shot in the chest. Cop is showing off his weapon in the car and shoots himself in the leg after he has cleared the weapon. Two cops driving down the road and one thinks it is "funny" to pull his loaded .357 Magnum, pull the hammer back and place it against the head of his partner to see his reaction. Pointing loaded weapons at each other to see the others guys reaction to having a laser on him. Tazing friends and family for the fun of it. "Confiscating" illegal weapons on traffic stops and then selling them out of the trunk of the cruiser. No Sh*t, personally saw this one! and just plain corruption. Can go on and on and on.
E. Cop after cop after cop (that I personally know/knew) that has totaled vehicles responding to accidents, driving too fast for road conditions or driving under the influence.
One poster said that you shouldn't have to "earn" respect, you should give it everyone until such time that they lose it. At this point LEOs have to earn my respect! LEOs are highly visible public servants. They should set the example and lead by example. They don't. They have the reputation that they do because most have "earned" it. I know the old saying that "one bad apple spoils the barrel" but in this case it is a barrel full of bad apples spoiling a few good ones. (don't get me wrong, there ARE good ones out there. I am still friends with those guys)
i thought if their was no signs saying no firearms allowed you should be able to carry
Positions of power attract bad apples. it's up to those hiring for those positions to weed out the bad apples but that's not always entirely possible.The problem with my list of LEOs is that I personally have no experience with any other professions that have as many "bad apples" as LEOs.
Even if they do, and they want to check it should be nothing more than verifying the LTCH is valid and then moving on with their day.If they don't see you carrying it shouldn't ever be an issue, right?
Do what you wish - boycott them or not, that's your decision. Just because the OP says jump off a bridge............Didn't the OP post his experience on INGO with the hopes of getting people to push his agenda of boycotting the Logansport mall? I have never had an OC/CC issue with that mall.
Should the same limits apply to free speech? Your rights against unwarranted search and seizure?I have zero problems with open carry. I just think you need to use good judgment on where you do it.
I don't give 2 's if you're nervous because I'm OC'ing. Just like I don't care if you don't like the color of my skin, the accent of my voice, the smell of my hair, or anything else.I feel that with today's society, OC makes more people nervous than it comforts.
I do from time to time, depending on what I'm doing and where I'm going but it's for my own comfort and not to make somebody else comfortable.If you can carry concealed
What, exactly, is suspicious about carrying a firearm openly? It used to be in this country the only ones suspicious were the ones with something to hide [i.e. if you were concealing, it was probably because you were not legal.]not raise suspicion
Why should I care if you get pissed off? You can go pound sand.not **** people off
If I wouldn't be causing a scene unarmed [or concealed] I'm also not causing a scene while openly carrying. If openly carrying results in a scene you can rest assured that I did not cause it.not cause a scene (while armed)
Can you cite just one case where a bad guy 'took out the good guy because he was armed' before committing whatever other crime they had in mind? I won't hold my breath - but those who advocate CC over OC bring this up all day long with absolutely no evidence to back such claims up.and not tip your hand to the bad guy IF something were to go down
How the heck would I know why you do something like putting whip cream on your turkey sandwich? [In case you're slow, that's just an example of something you could do that I would not understand, just like I would not understand you chasing police cars.]Why do I chase police cars?
Because said driver or passenger is suspected to have committed a crime or infraction and said driver is not stopping, as required by law.Why do police chase civilian cars?
Sounds like you need to get out more, or like you want to be in a position of authority when you aren't.When I follow a police car, get his bumper number and license plate on video, running in front of me and pan down to my speedometer to prove the speeds, all with a date and time stamp, it's pretty hard for a chief, sheriff or Sgt/Lt to dispute the facts and blow it off as a disgruntled citizen.
How would I know?Out of the dozen or so police officers that I have done this to, not one has pulled me over or written me a ticket. Why do you think that is?
I was having breakfast at one of my regular spots in speedway and a man and wife sat next to me at the counter. He was OC. regular looking fella. Waitress saw his glock and smiled. Owner never gave him a second look. Struck up a conversation about his glock. Turns out his is LEO. he showed me his, I showed him mine and we chuckled, eat breakfast and had a great conversation.
Are you absolutely positive about the unicorn farts?If there are signs that say "No Firearms Allowed" you can still carry. Signs hold no weight of law. Nor do "policies", "rules", "wishes" or "unicorn farts" when it comes to carry.
Businesses state their desires, but that does not magically make it unpossible to carry there.
...I went and read your suggested post. With an open mind. What did I get from it? Well...