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  • rambone

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    He leans to the left socially. He leans to the right fiscally.

    Mitt supports government health care, government wage controls, government bailouts of corporations, and market interventions of all kinds.

    I don't know about this "left" and "right" business, but he is decidedly anti-capitalist in his record.
     

    jamil

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    Mitt supports government health care, government wage controls, government bailouts of corporations, and market interventions of all kinds.

    I don't know about this "left" and "right" business, but he is decidedly anti-capitalist in his record.
    Left and right are terms that don't accurately describe politics, which we've discussed at length. But it's just how most people think of it. When I say Romney leans to the right fiscally, everyone knows what that means.

    What you said about how Romney thinks about capitalism describes what most moderates believe. What you believe and even what I believe about capitalism is not a mainstream view. If Romney believed in free market capitalism he would be beyond the bounds of moderate.
     

    jamil

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    findingZzero

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    The political process has a way of winnowing out the crazies and zealots. What we are left with is the pragmatic (or perhaps the incompetent). Some folks believe that gridlock is good. Free market capitalism becomes abusive when allowed to run free. Gov't has a role here. The only problem with this approach is it's highly inefficient at getting things done. In a competitive world, this slows you down. The small business man who wants gov't out of his affairs (minimum wage, sick leave) doesn't object to ordinances that restrict his competition (beer, wine distribution). Competing self interests with their respective voting blocs run the system. The more money on your side, the more influence you have. King George is no longer the problem. How deep does this distrust of gov't go. It's certainly healthy, but can be dysfunctional as well. Anyone looking for the purist, charismatic leader to show us the way out of the wilderness, be careful. Obama has some of those characteristics, but considering, he hasn't led us to disaster. He hasn't even had a sex scandal. And, he is intellectually curious. Besides, he/she has to square his ideas with the other 2 branches of gov't, purposely designed to slow things down. The framers didn't live in the world we live in. Some of their ideas are sacrosanct. Some need work. What were we talking about?

    Meh, Out of a country of 300 million, Cant we find a good candidate. Guess not.

    Good candidates either don't want the job, or can't get elected.
     
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    printcraft

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    ......... Anyone looking for the purist, charismatic leader to show us the way out of the wilderness, be careful. Obama has some of those characteristics, but considering, he hasn't led us to disaster. He hasn't even had a sex scandal. And, he is intellectually curious. ..........

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    rambone

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    Left and right are terms that don't accurately describe politics, which we've discussed at length. But it's just how most people think of it. When I say Romney leans to the right fiscally, everyone knows what that means.

    If a CPUSA member decided to covertly run as a Republican, he would vote and speak exactly like Mitt Romney.

    He leans "right", *wink* *wink*, after campaigning for 15 years for government controlled health care. Mm-hmm.

    The paradigm of "left" and "right" is a total deception, designed so that devout collectivists can blend in easier with their ideological opponents.

    Romney is not half-way constitutional. He is not moderately pro-freedom. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing; seeking to destroy from within.

    Look at his record. You will know them by their fruits.
     
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    No. I will not be voting in the next presidential election. I will not vote for another globalist puppet full of lies and deceit. As long as people continue to vote for them, they will continue to run. It's like being kicked in the balls and asking for another.
     

    Dead Duck

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    No. I will not be voting in the next presidential election. I will not vote for another globalist puppet full of lies and deceit. As long as people continue to vote for them, they will continue to run. It's like being kicked in the balls and asking for another.

    So -
    It's Hillary for you then! :rolleyes:
     

    Redhorse

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    Keep voting for the same system, it has worked out so well in the past.
    It has for over 225 years. It survived a civil war, two world wars, a massive economic depression, communism, and is still part of the greatest nation on Earth. I'll keep on voting for a clearly functional system.
     

    jamil

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    If a CPUSA member decided to covertly run as a Republican, he would vote and speak exactly like Mitt Romney.

    He leans "right", *wink* *wink*, after campaigning for 15 years for government controlled health care. Mm-hmm.

    The paradigm of "left" and "right" is a total deception, designed so that devout collectivists can blend in easier with their ideological opponents.

    Romney is not half-way constitutional. He is not moderately pro-freedom. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing; seeking to destroy from within.

    Look at his record. You will know them by their fruits.

    Ram, you'll need to make a choice. I know, the boner rays are a real threat. Scares the hell out of me too. But wearing the :tinfoil: full time isolates you from reality. You need to let the reality rays in once in awhile. I try to take my foil off twice a day for a half hour or so. YMMV.

    Being moderate isn't a comparison to loving freedom or being half-way constitutional. Saying someone is moderate just means they don't stray too far from the center. He's a moderate, not compared to freedom, and not compared to the quality of his views.

    You are not a moderate. Comparing your stated political views to other Americans, your views are a radical departure from mainstream. That doesn't mean you're bad. It just means you're not moderate. And I hate to break it to you, but mainstream America doesn't hate collectivism. It embraces it. People who love freedom are the radicals anymore.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    No. I will not be voting in the next presidential election. I will not vote for another globalist puppet full of lies and deceit. As long as people continue to vote for them, they will continue to run. It's like being kicked in the balls and asking for another.

    Unfortunately, from an overall perspective, your reason for not voting and its result is completely indiscernable from the oblivious masses that never vote because they don't want take a chance they'll miss the next episode of American Idol.
     

    spec4

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    As has been posted many times before on this forum; the Dems vote lockstep for their candidate, no matter how much of a dirtbag (Clinton) or Marxist (Obama) they are. They are able to get people to the polls who have no conception of what they are doing other than pulling a "D" lever. Many on this forum expect a perfect candidate or they will stay home. IMO, a very short sighted, feel good move that only improves the chances of the socialists winning. These individuals can rest assured that their perfect candidate that will motivate them to vote never has or will exist.
     
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