An answer to "Just had a knock at the door... "

[Fixer]

I disagree. The Truth is always known, though perhaps it will not be made aware in court.

That is technically what I meant. We don't know for sure if he was holding a gun or pointing it. Would not be the first time an amped up cop shot before he actually pointed it at him. They did think he was a murderer.

 

[Valvestate]

If I was the LEO and the nature of my business there was to apprehend or question someone known to be dangerous, I'd likely be on ready. It's less likely to be this situation in this case since the article doesn't mention it, but it still could be the case. If the gun was pointed at me, I'd likely react. If it was holstered, no. In hand would again depend on why I was there and who I was supposed to be talking to. Likely I would have mine pointed and asked to him to holster unless he began taking aim.

There's also the question of did the homeowner request ID before opening the door. If you're afraid to open up to a knock, it sounds like the first logical step.

Too little info, too many variables. Definitely should be investigated. Too bad the guy's a dead man and can't tell his tale.

 

[youngda9]

The cops probably saw a glimpse of the firearm and opened up on the guy. I would bet he never pointed it at them at all.

My armchar QB rating is higher than most.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

My armchar QB rating is higher than most.

You are my first round draft pick for my fantasy team this season.

 

[lovemachine]

You are my first round draft pick for my fantasy team this season.

Already a losing team.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Already a losing team.

You're just jealous because I traded your ass last year for ATM

 

[jd4320t]

So it is now the norm to just assume cops are lying? I refuse to join that crowd

 

[Jack Burton]

Your summary leaves out some critical details.

And that's why there's a link to the story, eh.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

So it is now the norm to just assume cops are lying? I refuse to join that crowd

I assume everyone is lying unless I can verify it. And yes, cops lie.

 

[rockhopper46038]

So it is now the norm to just assume cops are lying? I refuse to join that crowd

Well, as TF said, I don't think cops are exempt from lying. I suspect they lie at a rate that is pretty close to that of the general population as a whole.

But, I'm not accusing the police of lying; I take at face value the statement by the Lieutenent who said "if you point a gun at law enforcement, you're going to get shot", and that of the deputy that said they did not identify themselves. I'll even posit that the homeowner pointed his gun at them. What isn't in the story is whether the homeowner opened his door and found two non-identified, armed individuals who happened to already have their guns pointed in his face. At that point, if he started to raise his gun at them and they shot him down, they are at best guilty of manslaughter, and at worst, murder.

 

[ATM]

You're just jealous because I traded your ass last year for ATM

ew.

 

[Birds Away]

How about don't open your door pointing a gun???

You guys want to turn this into something it isn't.

Yes, the Officers made it home safely so all is well.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Yes, the Officers made it home safely so all is well.

Purple? Smiley? Anything besides serious?

 

[Birds Away]

Sorry, I am so disgusted with another innocent person being gunned down by stormtroopers who can't even take the time to get the right freakin' address......I forgot the purple.

 

[MikeDVB]

All I have to say is that if this ever happens to me, I hope to god my wife makes sure that they take care of her for the rest of her life (i.e. provide her the income that I won't be around to provide, via a large settlement).

At the end of the day, I have to die from something - let's just hope it's not this.

 

[Birds Away]

Is there anyone on this forum who, hearing someone beating on their door at 1:30am wouldn't go to the door gun in hand?

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Sorry, I am so disgusted with another innocent person being gunned down by stormtroopers who can't even take the time to get the right freakin' address......I forgot the purple.

Very understandable.

 

[lovemachine]

Is there anyone on this forum who, hearing someone beating on their door at 1:30am wouldn't go to the door gun in hand?

If it happened, why would you open the door?

Turn the light on, and demand the intruders to identify themselves.

You'd be amazed what communicatin does.

The article says the police knocked. Wether the homeowner opened the door pointing a gun or not, he still opened the door.

Don't open the door.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

If it happened, why would you open the door?

Turn the light on, and demand the intruders to identify themselves.

You'd be amazed what communicatin does.

The article says the police knocked. Wether the homeowner opened the door pointing a gun or not, he still opened the door.

Don't open the door.

This is good advice. Don't open the door, the most important things you have are INSIDE your house (family) if someone is going to harm them they must come inside your house. Don't make it easy for them, and shoot them if they try.

 

[MrsGungho]

Is there anyone on this forum who, hearing someone beating on their door at 1:30am wouldn't go to the door gun in hand?

I wouldn't go to the door at 1:30 in the morning


I actually had a close scare the other night when hubby decided to come home a night early and "surprise" me. Surprise was almost on him, but I didn't go to the door, I waited where I was ready to shoot.