Active shooter at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas...

[Birds Away]

Fair criticism, but we need not empower the federal govt to a degree that threatens our rights. But this discussion on mass shootings is long overdue.

We can't have a national discussion on that topic. The leftists only want to talk about firearms restrictions. They won't talk about anything else without getting that first.

It's like we can't talk about gun violence in the cities. The leftists only want to talk about gun restrictions. Any other discussion about why young black men continue to slaughter young black men is taboo.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Imagine a media that didn't showcase the person's name, life, background, etc... when they did something like this. Do you think it would happen less often, perhaps?

Can't the fault be placed on a massively open and "social media" society where everyone has to see and know everything immediately, and let everyone else know what they think?

I think that messes with people's minds. Messes with how we were meant to think and behave.

Stopping the public notoriety is certainly something that should be considered. To some, this is a surefire way to become famous.

 

[NyleRN]

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[ChristianPatriot]

Fair criticism, but we need not empower the federal govt to a degree that threatens our rights. But this discussion on mass shootings is long overdue.

What's that famous quote? Something along the lines of, "Those who would give up freedom for safety deserve neither."

 

[TheDude]

NBC says the shooter's father was once on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. Bank robbery then escaped from prison.

Vegas Shooter?s Father Was on FBI Most Wanted List

 

[bwframe]

As evidenced in this thread, this will be a fight that we foolishly believed we had won. Even those among us may well fuel the fire of the anti's...

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Stopping the public notoriety is certainly something that should be considered. To some, this is a surefire way to become famous.

A. It'll never be considered unless forced by the government, with harsh penalties for doing it.
B. It'll never be considered by the media because it's way, way too profitable.

So we know what could potentially help... but it's unlikely to ever happen.

 

[printcraft]

As evidenced in this thread, this will be a fight that we foolishly believed we had won. Even those among us may well fuel the fire of the anti's...

**** them, they can't have them.

 

[myhightechsec]

Anti Gun is already using this as a cause for more gun control. Which usually means a ban or total confiscation. CBSN has people at the Whitehouse on TV calling for more gun laws.

We have some folk on INGO that are ready to join them. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!

 

[churchmouse]

Here we go again. Some more.

Damn it.

 

[bwframe]

We have some folk on INGO that are ready to join them. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!

Simple! IGNORE. Don't give them the credit of a response or reply. Remind others to do the same.

 

[Onebad06vtx]

It is very sad that this has happened.
But with all the people just stayed huddled up,it could have been much worse.
Prayers go out to all involved!

 

[HoughMade]

I'm obviously not surrounded by some of the most capable minds in the world. That's my excuse.

Well, speculate for me. What can be done?

More to the point, what can a President do? Any President? Why is this the President's role?

Can all problems be solved with legislation?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Some good questions being raised by David French.

Las Vegas Shooting -- Very, Very Strange | National Review

 

[miguel]

Speaking of national conversations... Amazingly, despite this horrible event, Chicago is still "in the lead" for gun violence, well over Vegas' 2017 total. THAT FACT is, like Devin Hester, ridiculous. Did the guy in Nevada get his guns from Indiana, too?

Shot & Killed: 496
Shot & Wounded: 2386
Total Shot: 2882
Total Homicides: 533

source: 2017 Year To Date Totals | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

 

[Ericpwp]

The problem with shutting down the faces and the names of these killers is the help the public can provide in answering the unknowns. Especially if there is information that an event is not a single instance.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

UMCSN spokeswoman says the Las Vegas trauma center was trained on situations like this after Pulse club shooting

 

[churchmouse]

Some good questions being raised by David French.

Las Vegas Shooting -- Very, Very Strange | National Review

That was worth the read.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The problem with shutting down the faces and the names of these killers is the help the public can provide in answering the unknowns. Especially if there is information that an event is not a single instance.

Only thing it seems to answer these days is "what tribe did he belong to", "should I be happy or sad about the people they killed because ideology", and "what laws can we try to make out of this."

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well, speculate for me. What can be done?

More to the point, what can a President do? Any President? Why is this the President's role?

Can all problems be solved with legislation?

No, I'm not going to speculate. Because I don't know if there is a solution.... but I don't know that there isn't a solution, either. All I know, is that it is past the time that we had a discussion to find out one way or the other, devoid of the "take away their guns," and "don't take away my guns" arguments that hinder sincere thought on the subject.