Accidental shootings in both North Carolina, Ohio and Indiana Gun Shows

[Tamara]

Would you support a governmentally mandated poli sci class before you are allowed to vote?

Matthew 4:8-9.

Do I get to write the curriculum?

 

[Marine1]

Hey you have to have a ID to buy why not a safety card leave the classes up to the people not the gov.

 

[Jarhead77]

I do agree with you but i was thinking more about the ones who are resonable people but have no gun training to start with

Oddly enough, my experience shows the reasonable ones seek training on their own because the are typically the responsible ones too!!!

 

[Tamara]

Hey you have to have a ID to buy...

Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Loc n load]

Training

I understand where you are coming from Marine1, IMO, a "reasonable" responsible person who wants to own and operate a firearm should seek instruction if they feel the need. There are a lot of books, video's out there that teach safety also. My point is, that most of the ND's I have seen come from folks who carry them everyday...and have had training, and have remedial trng on a regular basis....the answer to the conundrum is: Responsible, safe gun handling....every time you handle a firearm....and that rest's solely upon the operator, regardless of how many times they have been flogged with safety training.

 

[Marine1]

Oddly enough, my experience shows the reasonable ones seek training on their own because the are typically the responsible ones too!!!

Yes i did but there is more we can do the ? is how do we go about it ?

 

[Marine1]

You all are right it is your resonablity as a gun owner to be safe EVERTIME

 

[Punkinhead]

It has to be because a bunch of inexperienced, un-knowledgable people are now rushing the stands to buy up guns because of all of the ban talk. Carrying them around, trying to use them without any real knowledge, training, or any expertise at all. Shooting themselves, and making the rest of us responsible owners look bad.

You're wrong. The shooting in Ohio was a dealer pulling the trigger. And the discharge in Lebanon a few weeks ago was after a dealer handed a customer a loaded gun. The moron here in Indy apparently had a LTCH, which he must have had for awhile given the current lag in getting them from the state. The one in NC was a seller with a loaded shotgun - not some new buyer.

I'd personally like to see these people charged and taken to jail. These aren't accidents - they're negligence. There's just no excuse.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

The last thing we need is more laws, more Government control.

 

[Light]

This would also be easy for the government to use to restrict our rights.

Simplest is, own a gun? That's not safe. You can't pass the class.

Or as someone stated, make the classes take a long time to pass or wait for, and remote in location. The reason I didn't get my LTCH over christmas is that all the electronic fingerprinting sessions near me were booked. Waiting for more time off to hopefully get it done.

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

I have to take a test to drive a car. Why shouldn't I need to do the same thing to carry a gun?

 

[Tamara]

I have to take a test to drive a car. Why shouldn't I need to do the same thing to carry a gun?

Because you don't have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to drive a car?

Now ask us a hard one.

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

Because you don't have a Constitutionally-guaranteed right to drive a car?

Now ask us a hard one.

Show me in the constitution where it says you can carry a concealed handgun on your person. Do it right now.

 

[Tamara]

Show me in the constitution where it says you can carry a concealed handgun on your person. Do it right now.

Is a handgun an "arm"?

Yes.

Does "bear" mean "carry"?

Yes, it does.

Does the Constitution specify a specific manner in which I must bear my arms?

No, it does not.

This is fun! Give me another softball over the middle of the plate.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Show me in the constitution where it says you can carry a concealed handgun on your person. Do it right now.

Article I, §32 of the Indiana Constitution as commented on by the Indiana Supreme Court in Kellogg v. City of Gary (1990).

Indiana Constitution - Article 1

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/bardwell/kellogg_v_gary.txt

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

Yes, because state constitutions matter. I'll refer you to the nullification crisis of 1832.

 

[Tamara]

Where'd you go to law school, Walt?

 

[John Galt]

Show me in the constitution where it says you can carry a concealed handgun on your person. Do it right now.

You MIGHT want to find a different forum if you're going to respond like this.
Just sayin .......

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

Where'd you go to law school, Walt?

Just most of the way through the history degree. Law degree starts sometime next year, most likely.

How about you?

 

[Tamara]

Just most of the way through the history degree. Law degree starts sometime next year, most likely.

How about you?

Oh, I didn't. But then again, I'm not the one arguing the law with a lawyer.