$800 Rifle in .223

[seedubs1]

In regards to PSA being hit or miss on quality, I don't think that's regarding all of their products. For example, their premium uppers are pretty highly regarded and they have a good reputation of quality for plenty of their mil spec stuff.

however, they do sell some stuff that could be a crap shoot. An example would be some of the non mil spec stuff, or some of the p-tac stuff they sell.

PSA sells a pretty wide range of stuff. Some high quality, and some lower quality. They really try to go for the entire market range. You just have to do your research and know what you're buying (as with anything).

 

[PUalum04]

Colt 6920's can be had for less than $900. I would check Search For Guns, Ammo, and Accessories for Sale Online - GunWatcher.com twice a week. Last week they had 6920 Magpul versions in Black and FDE furniture for $869.

Grabagun has them right now for $879

Colt Firearms M4 Carbine Magpul MOE Black 5.56MM 16 inch Online Gun Store

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

if you get 100 responses,
99 of them might as well be different.
I'll toss in my :
Del-Ton, Mid-Length Rifle

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Colt AR6721 AR15-A3 Tactical Carbine 30+1 223REM/5.56NATO 16.1" - $755 shipped (make an offer) | Slickguns

$755 for a Colt. You never have to explain a Colt.

 

[Vigilant]

Colt AR6721 AR15-A3 Tactical Carbine 30+1 223REM/5.56NATO 16.1" - $755 shipped (make an offer) | Slickguns

$755 for a Colt. You never have to explain a Colt.

Nor post about how to make it good enough!

 

[blue2golf]

if you get 100 responses,
99 of them might as well be different.
I'll toss in my :
Del-Ton, Mid-Length Rifle

Good one. My DT Sport has been a pretty good rifle.

 

[sig1473]

Colt AR6721 AR15-A3 Tactical Carbine 30+1 223REM/5.56NATO 16.1" - $755 shipped (make an offer) | Slickguns

$755 for a Colt. You never have to explain a Colt.

Exactly. And when you have to possibly sell that Colt, you will find out that Colt's are a lot easier to sell then a PSA/Stag/Bushmaster/etc.

 

[Vigilant]

Exactly. And when you have to possibly sell that Colt, you will find out that Colt's are a lot easier to sell then a PSA/Stag/Bushmaster/etc.

Who I their right mind would by a lowest bidder gun? (Purple as needed)

 

[dp665]

go ar. psa magpul lower 180 plus 348 for upper with bolt and fn barrel. around 550ish and you have a milspec ar.

 

[sig1473]

go ar. psa magpul lower 180 plus 348 for upper with bolt and fn barrel. around 550ish and you have a milspec ar.

No BUS, No magazine..........missing some things. How is it going to shoot with no mags or sights?

 

[nipprdog]

No BUS, No magazine..........missing some things. How is it going to shoot with no mags or sights?

He doesn't havs time for details, he was busy doing 50 posts in an hour so he could post about that Mosin in the classifieds.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

No BUS, No magazine..........missing some things. How is it going to shoot with no mags or sights?

Single shot and point shoot, like the pros.

Anyway, $40 gets you a p-mag and rear sight. Still cheaper.

I'm very happy with my PSA build, but some folks want the brand name cache, don't want to wait for weeks for PSA to ship, or are already planning on selling instead of using. For them, an extra $150 or so to get the Colt is probably worth it. For someone who wants to be able to customize cheaper but still have a quality rifle, time isn't a primary concern, and isn't worried about the logo or name on the side of the lower, $150 is likely not worth it.

 

[seedubs1]

For someone who isn't worried about the logo or name on the side of the lower, $150 is likely not worth it.

But.....an AR with a Noveske stamp instead of a PSA stamped receiver will always shoot better. Even if the guts are the same.

 

[sig1473]

I have a CHF PSA upper along with 2 Noveske uppers(1 CHF, 1 SS) and another Noveske-barreled(CHF) upper. Yes, the Noveske's will outshoot the PSA as I have shot them side by side. They both have the "same" CHF barrels so why does the Noveske shoot better??? In lies the secret. If people have never owned or shot a Noveske, then I guess they would never understand. YMMV(No purple intended)

 

[seedubs1]

I have a CHF PSA upper along with 2 Noveske uppers(1 CHF, 1 SS) and another Noveske-barreled(CHF) upper. Yes, the Noveske's will outshoot the PSA as I have shot them side by side. They both have the "same" CHF barrels so why does the Noveske shoot better??? In lies the secret. If people have never owned or shot a Noveske, then I guess they would never understand. YMMV(No purple intended)

Same barrels in the Noveske CHF and PSA CHF? I don't buy the Noveske being more accurate with just an upper receiver swap. Are you running a free float tube on the Noveske, and a non floating handguard on the PSA? Too many variables, but a Noveske receiver isn't going to shoot better than a PSA receiver on it's own. There's something else gong on component wise.

 

[sig1473]

Same barrels in the Noveske CHF and PSA CHF? I don't buy the Noveske being more accurate with just an upper receiver swap. Are you running a free float tube on the Noveske, and a non floating handguard on the PSA? Too many variables, but a Noveske receiver isn't going to shoot better than a PSA receiver on it's own. There's something else gong on component wise.

Both are non-free float. Noveske barrels are just more accurate. Hard to believe if you have never shot one. I didn't believe the hype either until I owned one. There is a reason why John built up the reputation he did for his barrels.

 

[seedubs1]

Noveske barrels are just more accurate.

No argument there. A Noveske barrel is on another level (not that a PSA CHF is bad at all), and it's one of the components that actually affects accuracy.

My comments earlier were regarding receivers only. Some people get too caught up on what's stamped on the receiver when they should be concerned about components that actually affect performance.

 

[sig1473]

No argument there. A Noveske barrel is on another level (not that a PSA CHF is bad at all), and it's one of the components that actually affects accuracy.

My comments earlier were regarding receivers only. Some people get too caught up on what's stamped on the receiver when they should be concerned about components that actually affect performance.

No worries. If anyone thinks otherwise, I have the land to prove it. I just bought a house w/15 acres so I have more than enough room to stretch out a 500yd range and then some. I actually have a 1,000yd range lined up. I just laugh at people who have no experience with a said product say there is "no difference" between them. I watch AR threads become nothing but misinformation on this site all the time. If anybody wants real AR info, please go over to M4carbine.net and not AR15.com............

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I have a CHF PSA upper along with 2 Noveske uppers(1 CHF, 1 SS) and another Noveske-barreled(CHF) upper.

How much better at, say, 300 yards? At what cost difference?

Just curious in case I ever do a precision build.

 

[seedubs1]

How much better at, say, 300 yards? At what cost difference?

Just curious in case I ever do a precision build.

You've already got a PSA build. Your next step is a White Oak with a matched BCG