3 G.O.P.Candidates lead Ellisworth to replace Evan Bayh

[melensdad]

If Hostettler is the man I will set this one out. Another one that speaks with forked tongue. And he will not get my or my wifes vote.

Any specifics? It would be helpful for those of us not in his district. Is he your representative now? What don't you like?

I have heard he can be arrogant, but I've not heard him to be a liar. He seems to generally vote for smaller government and is pro-gun.

I've made up my mind. Stutzman gets my vote.

The one who has the least chance of beating Coats in the primary gets your vote? I must ask why.

 

[Truckerman79]

The one who has the least chance of beating Coats in the primary gets your vote? I must ask why.

So by your logic I should vote for Coats right?

 

[Truckerman79]

Let me add that you are taking way too much stock in the polls at this point. Stutzman is already ahead in the polls over Ellsworth and my gut tells me once he is nominated he will become stronger as people get to know him. The losers of the primary won't even be a memory to potential voters.

 

[HICKMAN]

Hostettler is down in my mom's area, she ran in to him recently and everyone down there loves him.

She said "he carries too".

That's a plus for me

 

[HICKMAN]

Second Amendment


John is a staunch defender of our Second Amendment Rights. He is a gun owner and hunter. During his tenure in the United States House of Representatives, John established a record that reflected his desire to stop the federal government from infringing on this crucial liberty. Among other things, John:


- Voted to repeal the Clinton Gun Ban on semi-automatic firearms and magazines

- Led the effort to defund the Smith & Wesson agreement between that manufacturer and the Clinton Administration that would have given preferences to Smith & Wesson after its previous corporate leadership arranged a deal in order to get out of legal proceedings against the gun industry

- Led the effort to allow civilian airline pilots to carry firearms on board after the 9/11 tragedy was perpetrated by terrorists who were able to overpower pilots and fly airplanes into buildings and a rural field

- Sponsored legislation to allow national reciprocity for conceal and carry of firearms


Due to this record, John’s election to the U.S. House of Representatives was consistently endorsed by the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America.


As Indiana’s next senator, John will build on this record of devotion to our fundamental liberties.

 

[melensdad]

So by your logic I should vote for Coats right?

No. And I'm not trying to debate logic or anything else.

I simply wanted to know why you seem to voice such a strong opinion against Hostettler? Is there something the rest of us need to know? Does he have some deep dark secret that, if exposed would ruin him?

Also, to what polls are you referring where he is behind, I'd love to see that one and compare it with others, do you have a link I don't oppose Stutzman at all, in fact I'd love to see him as our Senator in Washington. At this point I'm only concerned about 1) beating Coats and then 2) beating Ellisworth. I see that we have 2 excellent and acceptable candidates in Hostettler and Stutzman, but the data I can find shows Hostettler as the more likely candidate to win. If I see contrary evidence then I will shift my vote in the primary. One thing the pro-gun/small government voters cannot do is split their vote. Doing so will simply put big government anti-gun Dan Coats into the Senate.

 

[Truckerman79]

No. And I'm not trying to debate logic or anything else.

I simply wanted to know why you seem to voice such a strong opinion against Hostettler? Is there something the rest of us need to know? Does he have some deep dark secret that, if exposed would ruin him?

Also, to what polls are you referring where he is behind, I'd love to see that one and compare it with others, do you have a link I don't oppose Stutzman at all, in fact I'd love to see him as our Senator in Washington. At this point I'm only concerned about 1) beating Coats and then 2) beating Ellisworth. I see that we have 2 excellent and acceptable candidates in Hostettler and Stutzman, but the data I can find shows Hostettler as the more likely candidate to win. If I see contrary evidence then I will shift my vote in the primary. One thing the pro-gun/small government voters cannot do is split their vote. Doing so will simply put big government anti-gun Dan Coats into the Senate.

I don't oppose Hostettler at all. I misread your first post thinking Coats had the biggest lead over Ellsworth. Didn't Hostettler get creamed by Ellsworth in 2006? To me it's a coin flip, but I think it's time for a fresh, young, conservative face to be our voice in Washington.

And like I said before, the poll data at this point showing which candidate has a better chance against Ellsworth doesn't mean much. November is a long ways away.

 

[irishfan]

All I know is that you all better hope Barack Obama comes to Indiana and campaigns for Ellisworth. That is the nail in the coffin for all the dems he backs.

 

[melensdad]

Here is the very latest polling data comparison from Rasmussen. I used this for 2 reasons. 1) Rasmussen has some of the most accurate polling data in the world. 2) Most other pollsters are not even following Indiana yet or have not done a recent poll. This Rasmussen data was taken within the last week.

The Daily Kos has also done some polls on this race, dating back to February. At that time they found Hostettler being the strongest candidate against Ellisworth, they also did not bother with Stutzman as his name recognition was too low. I'm curious to see any more recent data on this race. Here is a link to the Kos poll: Daily Kos :: State of the Nation

 

[CarmelHP]

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[evansvillethompsongunner]

I don't oppose Hostettler at all. I misread your first post thinking Coats had the biggest lead over Ellsworth. Didn't Hostettler get creamed by Ellsworth in 2006? To me it's a coin flip, but I think it's time for a fresh, young, conservative face to be our voice in Washington.

And like I said before, the poll data at this point showing which candidate has a better chance against Ellsworth doesn't mean much. November is a long ways away.

Hostettler definitely lost to Ellsworth... biggest loss ever by an incumbent in recent national history, in fact. But - Ellsworth had the benefit of being a dark horse with unknown stances on a lot of positions, and of being a sheriff, which at the time meant something. Now that we know where he stands, there's not a chance of Ellsworth keeping office in the House, much less actually being elected Senator. Hostettler has the name recognition here to sweep the lower population centers, and if people in Indy can actually peer out of their rectums long enough to look elsewhere and he takes Indy and Fort Wayne, it'll be a landslide in his favor.

He's SOLIDLY conservative, and I honestly wouldn't mind him as President. I'd lay money that he'd do his level best to repeal '34/'68/'86.
I like Stutzman's positions, but he doesn't have the name recognition of a six-term Congressman for the third most populous area in the State.

Not that this should be considered the end-all be-all, but I found nothing on here to be too terribly erroneous:

John Hostettler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Importantly,
"In January 1996, Hostettler was one of 17 Republicans who voted against a legislation supported by House Speaker Newt Gingrich that ended a federal government shutdown. After the vote, Gingrich canceled plans to visit Evansville for a fund-raising event for Hostettler. Gingrich offered to reschedule, but Hostettler turned him down, saying "I cannot allow my fund raising to be tied in any way to specific votes."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hostettler#cite_note-8

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hostettler#cite_note-11On July 10, 2002, Hostettler introduced House Amendment 523 to House Resolution 4635, which would have removed the 2% cap on the number of pilots who could be deputized as federal flight deck officers and thus permitted to carry firearms to as well as requiring the Transportation Security Administration to train 20% of all pilots who volunteer for the program within six months of enactment and train 80% by the end of the two-year pilot program."

He's solid and I'd rather see him in there than any other Congresscritter in this nation.

 

[Mokkie]

Any specifics? It would be helpful for those of us not in his district. Is he your representative now? What don't you like?

I have heard he can be arrogant, but I've not heard him to be a liar. He seems to generally vote for smaller government and is pro-gun.



The one who has the least chance of beating Coats in the primary gets your vote? I must ask why.

The deal to which I referred to was a private matter before he was elected. Also John Hostettler at one point came out big for term limits when when it didnt pass he came back to run for re-election And then the gun problem at the airport. Now I dont know about you all but I know where my hand guns are at at all times. I may be hijacking this thread just a little. But I believe we dont need somebody that has in the past been there done that. We need fresh blood to go to Washington D.C. which means to me you dont send Coats, Ellsworth, or Hostettler or anyone else that has been a congressman or senator in the past. I have lost a lot of sleep over this nonsense that went on this past sunday. We need someone that is going to stand up for what is right and not what the party wants. These people need to know that we are tired of them throwing our rights down the rat hole. That is just mho. Sorry for hijacking the thread.