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1911-cocked, half cocked or butterscotch?
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I dont know anything about 1911s, like you might tell from my questions.
Can you carry with one in the chamber and hammer down and fire the gun like that?
Like you would with a revolver in double action.
Or do you need to have it cocked all the way back in order to fire, in what would be single action for a revolver?
That's not safe.
To answer your question, you'd have to manually cock the hammer...
And I've actually met an "instructor" who advocates carrying this way.
Again, I'll stress - NOT SAFE.
iChokePeople
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Ok then, I'm just pulling the audio out of your demo and using whatever words and phrases I can piece together on my own.
I've done it both ways. What's the argument for always starting from a locked slide?
I tried to get her for both, but alas I have to spread it around
It wouldn't be safe because if I drop the gun like that (hammer down and no safety) the gun could fire, as opposed to having the hammer cocked back that would prevent the gun from firing if I drop it with no safey on, right?
Even though it's probably not the safest thing to drop any gun for that matter.
So the 1911 works like a single action revolver, and not like a double action right?
iChokePeople
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It wouldn't be safe because if I drop the gun like that (hammer down and no safety) the gun could fire, as opposed to having the hammer cocked back that would prevent the gun from firing if I drop it with no safey on, right?
Even though it's probably not the safest thing to drop any gun for that matter.
So the 1911 works like a single action revolver, and not like a double action right?
Drop question, right.
Revolver question, right, at least as far as the parts I think you're talking about.
Femme Assise
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There is no reason to half cock a 1911... so I'm guessing they were not familiar with the mechanics of a 1911.
Im saying that with a double action revolver the hammer can be down and to cock it back you can either pull the trigger (it will cock it back and fire) or cock it back manually and then fire with a lighter trigger pull.
Sorry if im not clear about it.
So from what I understand the 1911 works more like a single action revolver were you have to manually cock the hammer back, you just cant pull the trigger to cock it back and fire when the hammer is down.
Im saying that with a double action revolver the hammer can be down and to cock it back you can either pull the trigger (it will cock it back and fire) or cock it back manually and then fire with a lighter trigger pull.
Sorry if im not clear about it.
So from what I understand the 1911 works more like a single action revolver were you have to manually cock the hammer back, you just cant pull the trigger to cock it back and fire when the hammer is down.
No, a 1911 is not a double action in any way. You can not pull the trigger to cock the hammer.
iChokePeople
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Im saying that with a double action revolver the hammer can be down and to cock it back you can either pull the trigger (it will cock it back and fire) or cock it back manually and then fire with a lighter trigger pull.
Sorry if im not clear about it.
So from what I understand the 1911 works more like a single action revolver were you have to manually cock the hammer back, you just cant pull the trigger to cock it back and fire when the hammer is down.
Correct.
iChokePeople
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I think it's probably a pretty common question.
Now I feel clever ... kinda.
Im glad INGO is here, because if you learn all your gun knowledge from the movies you are screwed.
I saw a guy cocking his Glock 17 in a TV show, he had his gun on the BG's head and it made a "cocking noise", even though he had a Glock and his thumb didn't move from the grip of the gun.
I am sure I have as well. I have experienced one AD (accidental discharge) with my first 1911 and have been so careful since that happened.
That is the reason for this forum. I learn something every day on here. Either how to do, or not to do certain things.
singlestacksig
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half cock notches are a left over safety feature from when there were not firing pin blocks..
many guns, not just 1911s, had them.. the idea was you could have a loaded chamber without the hammer resting on the firing pin, making the gun less likely to go off if dropped.. some guns will drop the hammer from half cocked when trigger pulled, some will not..
many guns, not just 1911s, had them.. the idea was you could have a loaded chamber without the hammer resting on the firing pin, making the gun less likely to go off if dropped.. some guns will drop the hammer from half cocked when trigger pulled, some will not..
iChokePeople
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Nice thread.I learned alot.
Me too -- don't hang with jetgirl after she ate chili.
