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[AndersonIN]

I do hope this is the case.

Sure you didn't walk out with one of their ink pens????

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This is like a gift. Being told "Alright, you've got 20 minutes to prepare for a cop to come talk to you about OC."

I would love this. Having time to prepare everything you're going to say, knowing 100% you're in the right from the beginning.

 

[AndersonIN]

ONE WORD!!!!! VIDEO!!!!!!!

Set it up NOW!

 

[Rookie]

It doesn't say you have to be carrying at the moment, to be carded for your license to carry. But it doesn't say you have to have it on you at all either.
It's not really that cut and dry. The officer can be a jerk about it, and so could the OP.
He is probably just checking up on a complaint, doing his job.
OP can decide to talk, or not.
I would not wait at work for him to arrive. If he wants to talk, he can catch the OP at a better time.

You're kidding right? In order for a police officer to have any reason to ask for LTCH, they have to suspect you're carrying a firearm.

 

[Rookie]

If you have money in that bank you can't be tress passed from it due to contractual obligations

This was overruled...

 

[ArcadiaGP]

You're kidding right? In order for a police officer to have any reason to ask for LTCH, they have to suspect you're carrying a firearm.

Of course not.

By the way, do you happen to have your NAMBLA card on you? I demand you show it to me, just, because I asked.

 

[Rookie]

Are you wearing pink panties? I demand you show me.

I take it back, he can ask all he wants. If you aren't carrying, he has no authority behind the request.

 

[SaintsNSinners]

This was overruled...

Negative ghost rider the pattern is full. You cannot tresspass someone with a valid contractual interest. I.E. Money in a bank, lease with apt complex.



IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
**** Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
********(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;

 

[Rookie]

Negative ghost rider the pattern is full. You cannot tresspass someone with a valid contractual interest. I.E. Money in a bank, lease with apt complex.



IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
**** Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
********(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;

You absolutely sure about that?

The Indiana Law Blog: Ind. Decisions - Supreme Court decides one today

 

[Signal23]

My guess is this is just a follow up from a complaint from the bank.

Just like a welfare check, they will go, just to look you in the eye and ask if you have a problem with the bank, you will say, they are dumb asks, he will say cool, and be on his way.

 

[singlestacksig]

Negative ghost rider the pattern is full. You cannot tresspass someone with a valid contractual interest. I.E. Money in a bank, lease with apt complex.



IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
**** Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
********(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;

A bank account does not equal contractual interest in the property.. A bank account is a financial obligation of the bank.
A account at a credit union has yet to be tested in court, since a CU account gives you some ownership in the credit union.

 

[Squirt239]

Got my interest...looking forward to hearing this conversation!

 

[MTubbs1]

I survived, he just wanted to tell me how its dangerous to OC like John Wayne and I am making myself a target.

He couldn't understand why I would go to another bank and said they way things are that all banks would be like that soon. I replied good thing I have so many to choose from!

He then asked how my mother would feel if she saw a man with a gun at a bank, I simply smiled and said you don't my mom.


So other than my wasted time arguing about OC vs. CC it was all good. No ID of any kind was requested and he did not attempt to disarm me, just mentioned that if I go back OC'ing he would write to he ISP recommending my LTCH or as he said "permit" be suspended.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I survived, he just wanted to tell me how its dangerous to OC like John Wayne and I am making myself a target.

He couldn't understand why I would go to another bank and said they way things are that all banks would be like that soon. I replied good thing I have so many to choose from!

He then asked how my mother would feel if she saw a man with a gun at a bank, I simply smiled and said you don't my mom.


So other than my wasted time arguing about OC vs. CC it was all good. No ID of any kind was requested and he did not attempt to disarm me, just mentioned that if I go back OC'ing he would write to he ISP recommending my LTCH or as he said "permit" be suspended.

WOW!

I would have had a very hard time with that dude. He will get my Larry revoked for a legal activity? Sheesh!

 

[10ring]

 

[Rookie]

I survived, he just wanted to tell me how its dangerous to OC like John Wayne and I am making myself a target.

He couldn't understand why I would go to another bank and said they way things are that all banks would be like that soon. I replied good thing I have so many to choose from!

He then asked how my mother would feel if she saw a man with a gun at a bank, I simply smiled and said you don't my mom.


So other than my wasted time arguing about OC vs. CC it was all good. No ID of any kind was requested and he did not attempt to disarm me, just mentioned that if I go back OC'ing he would write to he ISP recommending my LTCH or as he said "permit" be suspended.

Did you recommend that he get his pen ready?

 

[MTubbs1]

Did you recommend that he get his pen ready?

I did ask where he got his "first guy to be targeted" facts, he said the NRA, I said no such stats out there.

He did mention of funfact of 32 people per day applying for LTCH in Howard county.

 

[Bang-bang]

revoked for a legal activity? . Give his boss the chance to correct the LEO. Then a good lawyer would serve you well!

 

[AndersonIN]

Should have recommended/DEMANDED that he remove his badge next time he comes in due to your being frightened by bright shiny objects.

WAD! Oh well, I wanted to send Kokomo PD an email today anyway!

Kokomo Police Department

100 South Union Street
Kokomo, Indiana
46901

Email: police@cityofkokomo.org
Located at the corner of Sycamore and
Union Streets, downtown Kokomo

Administrative Office Hours:
8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.

Emergency calls:
911

Non-Emergency Calls:
If you need an officer, a VIN check, or need to report an incident: 765.459.5101.

If you need an accident or incident report or have questions concerning gun permits, call the Records Division (shown below).
Records Division (765) 456.7107

 

[Rookie]

Agreed, I would go over his head and ask if it's standard procedure to threaten people who are acting lawfully.