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    Click the link. The "W" in the orangish box means active warrant.

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    He was an Excise officer, not a street cop. So he was in LE, but not a real cop.

    Exactly; hence, my characterization as "sort of...."

    I'm sure he was totally on it when a bar was open past 0300 or the kids were drinking at the Little 500.

    Not to mention the hundreds of administrative violations that licensed premises can commit! :):
     

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    I’m sure it was posted up thread. The other ambush killer had 2 felonies on his name for armed robbery and kidnapping in the last year.
    I have to wonder why he was out of prison setting up an ambush for the police.
    (I don’t really have to wonder)

    You should not wonder at all. Marion Co. has a revolving door policy for these crap sacks. They have no fear of the system anymore.
     

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    DD214, what's that?

    When an individual leaves the service legally, They are given a FORM DD-214. It will have a brief sumary of their service to include what type of discharge they recieved. I will not call anyone who was dishonorably discharged a veteran. If he served for less than 2 years, I question why. There are honorable reasons for an early discharge. To get in you have to pass tests that show an aptitude for the career field you are entering. Cooks and cops even have standards that you have to meet. One used to be able to get a guaranteed career field in their contract when they signed up. If during the training for that job the Service decided they did not need any more peeps to fill that slot or the training became unavailable through no fault of the enlistee, the enlistee could get out of the contract and leave the Service.

    How ever, if the trainee flunked out of the training, the Service could reassign them a new career field. Usually as a cook or a cop. They always need cooks and cops in the Air Force. I doubt his discharge was through no fault of his own. And why I want to see his DD-214. A DD-214 is shown when you apply for a job after you get out. The pictures of him in uniform show good intentions. They may be no more than pavement.
     

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    When an individual leaves the service legally, They are given a FORM DD-214. It will have a brief sumary of their service to include what type of discharge they recieved. I will not call anyone who was dishonorably discharged a veteran. If he served for less than 2 years, I question why. There are honorable reasons for an early discharge. To get in you have to pass tests that show an aptitude for the career field you are entering. Cooks and cops even have standards that you have to meet. One used to be able to get a guaranteed career field in their contract when they signed up. If during the training for that job the Service decided they did not need any more peeps to fill that slot or the training became unavailable through no fault of the enlistee, the enlistee could get out of the contract and leave the Service.

    How ever, if the trainee flunked out of the training, the Service could reassign them a new career field. Usually as a cook or a cop. They always need cooks and cops in the Air Force. I doubt his discharge was through no fault of his own. And why I want to see his DD-214. A DD-214 is shown when you apply for a job after you get out. The pictures of him in uniform show good intentions. They may be no more than pavement.

    A former co-workers son enlisted in the Navy because "that is where dad became a man"; he didn't even make it to boot camp due to the anxiety attack he suffered causing severe abdominal cramps and crying for mommy. They told him "thanks but no thanks". His dad still refers to him as a veteran.

    Yeah, dad's a real winner too.
     

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    Sean was providing a service to the community!

    He was shooting mosquitoes.

    “It would never be a dull moment with him,” she said. “He could go into a room and literally light the whole room up — people he don’t even know, never met before, never talked to nobody — and literally leave the room with new friends.”
    He was basketball-obsessed and was always reading — he could rattle off bits of information in a conversation that would stop Anderson in her tracks.
    Reed wanted to go back to school, she said. He had plans for himself.
    Looks like he was in the AF for about 9 months in 2017.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news...dreasjon-sean-reed-always-smiling/3087155001/
     

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    When an individual leaves the service legally, They are given a FORM DD-214. It will have a brief sumary of their service to include what type of discharge they recieved. I will not call anyone who was dishonorably discharged a veteran. If he served for less than 2 years, I question why. There are honorable reasons for an early discharge. To get in you have to pass tests that show an aptitude for the career field you are entering. Cooks and cops even have standards that you have to meet. One used to be able to get a guaranteed career field in their contract when they signed up. If during the training for that job the Service decided they did not need any more peeps to fill that slot or the training became unavailable through no fault of the enlistee, the enlistee could get out of the contract and leave the Service.

    How ever, if the trainee flunked out of the training, the Service could reassign them a new career field. Usually as a cook or a cop. They always need cooks and cops in the Air Force. I doubt his discharge was through no fault of his own. And why I want to see his DD-214. A DD-214 is shown when you apply for a job after you get out. The pictures of him in uniform show good intentions. They may be no more than pavement.

    IF (big IF) the photo in the Indy Star's puff-piece is correct as far as authorized to wear the uniform and accouterments (ribbons, badges, etc.): completed basic training and technical training. Either Security Forces (AF Cops) or Fire Fighter. I can't think of other career fields that would have a duty badge (below ribbons). Can't see either the duty or occupational badge (above ribbons) good enough to tell if it's Cops or Fire Fighters/Civil Engineers.

    USAF Fire Fighters will never say they are in CE, but they are.



    https://www.indystar.com/story/opin...mpd-facebook-live-police-shooting/3086930001/
     

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    180 days used to be the cut off for a no questions asked discharge. I do not know if that has changed or not.

    In the early '70s it was made perfectly clear to us that if we wanted out we would get out.
     

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    IF (big IF) the photo in the Indy Star's puff-piece is correct as far as authorized to wear the uniform and accouterments (ribbons, badges, etc.): completed basic training and technical training. Either Security Forces (AF Cops) or Fire Fighter. I can't think of other career fields that would have a duty badge (below ribbons). Can't see either the duty or occupational badge (above ribbons) good enough to tell if it's Cops or Fire Fighters/Civil Engineers.

    USAF Fire Fighters will never say they are in CE, but they are.



    https://www.indystar.com/story/opin...mpd-facebook-live-police-shooting/3086930001/


    I tried to read it, but, as with most of Ms. Hackney's "work," I couldn't make it through the first couple of paragraphs.

    Thanks for the insight as to the duty and occupational badges information; I lack any current knowledge of the USAF and their uniform accouterments.
     

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    Thank you very much for the information.
    Am I correct about the house arrest for armed robbery? Is that in the same link and I don't know how to read it?

    We have a couple of topics intertwined in this thread, they really each deserve their own separate threads.
    I "think" the armed robbery detention was on the ambush dude.

    https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase...iRmlsZUVuZCI6bnVsbCwiQ291bnR5Q29kZSI6bnVsbH19
     

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    Sean was providing a service to the community!

    He was shooting mosquitoes.

    “It would never be a dull moment with him,” she said. “He could go into a room and literally light the whole room up — people he don’t even know, never met before, never talked to nobody — and literally leave the room with new friends.”
    He was basketball-obsessed and was always reading — he could rattle off bits of information in a conversation that would stop Anderson in her tracks.
    Reed wanted to go back to school, she said. He had plans for himself.
    Looks like he was in the AF for about 9 months in 2017.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/news...dreasjon-sean-reed-always-smiling/3087155001/

    The title "flight leader" would be from Basic Training.
     

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    I tried to read it, but, as with most of Ms. Hackney's "work," I couldn't make it through the first couple of paragraphs.

    Thanks for the insight as to the duty and occupational badges information; I lack any current knowledge of the USAF and their uniform accouterments.

    Per Brad's post, nine months in the USAF would get you to the first duty station for a few months. Cops and Fire Fighters tech schools are probably 2 months or so, BMT is 8 weeks. Didn't last long in "the real Air Force", probably won't hear the reason it was 9 months and not 4 years.
     

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    180 days used to be the cut off for a no questions asked discharge. I do not know if that has changed or not.

    In the early '70s it was made perfectly clear to us that if we wanted out we would get out.

    That was the same in the Army in the 80's. Unsuitability for service, pattern of minor misconduct, drug rehab failure, etc. We called them "chaptered" out, referring to the chapter of the Army Regulation that applied (AR 135-178).
     

    MarkC

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    Per Brad's post, nine months in the USAF would get you to the first duty station for a few months. Cops and Fire Fighters tech schools are probably 2 months or so, BMT is 8 weeks. Didn't last long in "the real Air Force", probably won't hear the reason it was 9 months and not 4 years.

    Sounds about right. My son is enlisted in the Army Delayed Entry Program, hopefully to report at the end of June, if all the COVID stuff doesn't get in the way.

    His Basic Combat Training is 10 weeks, his Advanced Individual Training for 13F (Fire Support Specialist) is eight weeks.

    He'll be the third generation to serve in the Army Field Artillery. Kind of the "family business."
     

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    At 9 months I was Permanent Party with over a dozen jumps under my belt.
     

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    Thank you very much for the information.
    Am I correct about the house arrest for armed robbery? Is that in the same link and I don't know how to read it?

    I couldn't find that for this guy, but the guy that tried to ambush officers by calling in the fake burglary was on home detention.
     

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    So we are thinking that putting more violent offenders out on the streets could lead to more violent encounters with police. Wow, someone should let someone know about this.
     
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